How would you describe the previous poster's ideology?

[Intell]

Social Liberal, and a standard capitalist social progressive.

[Intell]

Left-populist and critic of liberal democracy

No I support liberal democracy, a critic of many of the anti-social natures of individual capitalist liberalism, yes.

Scott, seems like someone on the Christian Left, who values heritage and tradition, while still trying to make the world a better place for its people.

[Intell]

Marxist-Leninist

Are people trying to be stupid?

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[Intell]

Progressive Social Democrat.

[Intell]

A Cente- Left Asian Indian Democrat.

Really gotta change that these days.

For Peebs, a progressive social liberal with a feminist and environmental touch.

[Intell]

Religious Right, Conservative, Traditionalist, yet influenced by moderate christian democracy, with market based policies to help the poor.

[Intell]

Generic socialist

Generic Socialist is the last things people will call me, especially with some of my policies.


LLR is a generic progressive. Actually he seems, at least from politically what would be a standard Ashkenazi, secular, liberal but not so progressive Jew.

[Intell]

Since intels description of LLR was being a whiney brat about being called generic and then trying to insult him, he gets skipped.

LLR is a center left populist.

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I never insulted him, I merely made a joke that he was a generic progressive, and than called him what I thought his ideology was.

[Intell]

Since intels description of LLR was being a whiney brat about being called generic and then trying to insult him, he gets skipped.

LLR is a center left populist.

the fyck

I never insulted him, I merely made a joke that he was a generic progressive, and than called him what I thought his ideology was.

It looked salty as hell.

I said he was a "generic progressive", as a joke after her said I was a generic socialist. Then described what his ideology was.

[Intell]

Since intels description of LLR was being a whiney brat about being called generic and then trying to insult him, he gets skipped.

LLR is a center left populist.

the fyck

I never insulted him, I merely made a joke that he was a generic progressive, and than called him what I thought his ideology was.

It looked salty as hell.

I said he was a "generic progressive", as a joke after her said I was a generic socialist. Then described what his ideology was.

Considering what you've said about people who aren't your style of economic liberal, calling someone "not so progressive" certainly sounds like something you'd say as an insult.

One I'm not economic liberal, I am  opposed to economic social liberalism, and fundamentally economic neoliberalism. I'm sure LLR wouldn't consider himself a progressive either.

[Intell]

Transgender, money grabbin', relgion hatin', goddamn liberal.

[Intell]

The worst kind of conservative leftism,

[Intell]

Far leftist.

Supporting Marcon in a signature disqualifies someone from being left-wing imo.

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[Intell]

"New" Democrat

I forgot to put skip.

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ETA: disliking the sanders movement and not considering corporations and rich people evil doesn't magically make you a part of the third-way

Not what the campaign was about, and since you don't realise that you're probably third-way.

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[Intell]

"New" Democrat

I forgot to put skip.

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ETA: disliking the sanders movement and not considering corporations and rich people evil doesn't magically make you a part of the third-way

Not what the campaign was about, and since you don't realise that you're probably third-way.

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Those were meant to be two different things, though sanders did focus too much on A. the rich being terrible and B. pandering to lower-middle class(not poor), and not enough on the impovrished. It says something about socialists(at least the ones I've seen on this site) that they seem to have no complaints about such a campaign.

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Sanders campaign was in many cases flawed, not speaking to working class voters, in Baltimore and rural WV, and rather having hustings in stadiums that were filled with college children. This is a very valid criticism to make

Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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[Intell]

Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWyOTvLg04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMr-8jpymQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMCymLO-GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaFV2N1KFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJ7f-3XGB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W103Gs0MP1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL1bL2A5rw

The reasons to why he mentioned billionares, are because the gross poverty that results in the country, is because of massive income inequality, and reinforced through the massive wealth the billlionares reciveve, get and keep.

[Intell]

Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWyOTvLg04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMr-8jpymQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMCymLO-GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaFV2N1KFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJ7f-3XGB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W103Gs0MP1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL1bL2A5rw

The reasons to why he mentioned billionares, are because the gross poverty that results in the country, is because of massive income inequality, and reinforced through the massive wealth the billlionares reciveve, get and keep.

Three of these were before the campaign even started. He did talk about poverty a bit, but his main focus was the lower middle class. His biggest policies of the campaign were free collage and student debt(appeals to middle and lower middle class collage educated millennials), Universal Healthcare(which does help the poor a lot, but the poor are more focused on having food and paying the rent because they're in that bad of a situation; the people who are strongly interested in it are more middle-class people who have the money to pay for healthcare and thus see it being really overly expensive and flawed), and the minimum wage(which actually does help poor people who can get a job, but he fails to mention unemployment). Too much of the campaign is framed as a movement, a group united by ideology, and not enough about simply helping people. Why do we have to add a bunch of class conflict to the mix?

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Because society is driven by class conflicts, especially the rich, with extreme levels of wealth, being partly to blame, as a result of the current economic system, as inequality of the distrbution of wealth.

"free collage and student debt"- This helps the working class a lot, by being allowed acess to higher education and results in increased social mobility.

 "Universal Healthcare"- Again helps the poor, and middle class people, but also the poor not covered by Medicaid, and don't get proper funding needed from medicaid.

"Jobs"- I love how you said jobs, and before stated, jobs being outsourced to other countries (as a result of rich people and the economic system to benefit them.), while ignoring it before.

3 of it was before the campaign started, but it is there to show his consisten platform.

He's movement is driven by ideology, but an ideology aimed at helping the lives of poor and working class people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_2Ca6_TKs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S49aeJsTJP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXC_FlNNH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTbmsnEguUo

But ok.

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