Will Gina Raimondo face a serious primary challenge in 2018?

[136or142]

One of the least popular governors in the United States presently and I gather the public sector unions still hate her.

I'd have to assume that if she faced a serious primary challenger and the primary election were held today that she'd lose.

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Hopefully she and fellow unpopular 3rd wayer Malloy go down.

[smoltchanov]

One of the least popular governors in the United States presently and I gather the public sector unions still hate her.

I'd have to assume that if she faced a serious primary challenger and the primary election were held today that she'd lose.

Related question: will Republicans finally run a good candidate (someone like Scott Avedisian) here?

[136or142]

One of the least popular governors in the United States presently and I gather the public sector unions still hate her.

I'd have to assume that if she faced a serious primary challenger and the primary election were held today that she'd lose.

Related question: will Republicans finally run a good candidate (someone like Scott Avedisian) here?

Finally? If you mean a good candidate as in winning the election, two Republicans held the Rhode Island Governorship from 1994 to 2010.  After that, the former Republican (briefly turned Democratic Presidential candidate) Lincoln Chafee held the position for one term from 2010 to 2014 (elected as an independent.)

If you mean your preferred 'moderate' candidates as in a 'good candidate', why shouldn't the Republicans have nominated those two people who became Governors since, after all,  they won?

Of course, if they were unqualified for the office like President-Elect Donald Trump is for the office he is almost certainly about to assume, that would be different, but I don't think that was the case with either of them,

[smoltchanov]

One of the least popular governors in the United States presently and I gather the public sector unions still hate her.

I'd have to assume that if she faced a serious primary challenger and the primary election were held today that she'd lose.

Related question: will Republicans finally run a good candidate (someone like Scott Avedisian) here?

Finally? If you mean a good candidate as in winning the election, two Republicans held the Rhode Island Governorship from 1994 to 2010.  After that, the former Republican (briefly turned Democratic Presidential candidate) Lincoln Chafee held the position for one term from 2010 to 2014 (elected as an independent.)

If you mean your preferred 'moderate' candidates as in a 'good candidate', why shouldn't the Republicans have nominated those two people who became Governors since, after all,  they won?

Of course, if they were unqualified for the office like President-Elect Donald Trump is for the office he is almost certainly about to assume, that would be different, but I don't think that was the case with either of them,

I know that Republicans (present or past) held Rhode Island governorship for 20 years, as good as you are. By "finally" i meant their 2014 candidate. Fung was not only pro-life (that's tolerable in mostly Catholic state), but - conservative on most major issues too, while Rhode Island - is not. Better candiddate could beat Raimondo even then. But if you speak about your beloved "true progressives" - not sure that they will be able either to win primary or defeat Republican candidate. This year (as in 2010 and 2014) most of them were far from being convincing..

[136or142]

One of the least popular governors in the United States presently and I gather the public sector unions still hate her.

I'd have to assume that if she faced a serious primary challenger and the primary election were held today that she'd lose.

Related question: will Republicans finally run a good candidate (someone like Scott Avedisian) here?

Finally? If you mean a good candidate as in winning the election, two Republicans held the Rhode Island Governorship from 1994 to 2010.  After that, the former Republican (briefly turned Democratic Presidential candidate) Lincoln Chafee held the position for one term from 2010 to 2014 (elected as an independent.)

If you mean your preferred 'moderate' candidates as in a 'good candidate', why shouldn't the Republicans have nominated those two people who became Governors since, after all,  they won?

Of course, if they were unqualified for the office like President-Elect Donald Trump is for the office he is almost certainly about to assume, that would be different, but I don't think that was the case with either of them,

I know that Republicans (present or past) held Rhode Island governorship for 20 years, as good as you are. By "finally" i meant their 2014 candidate. Fung was not only pro-life (that's tolerable in mostly Catholic state), but - conservative on most major issues too, while Rhode Island - is not. Better candiddate could beat Raimondo even then. But if you speak about your beloved "true progressives" - not sure that they will be able either to win primary or defeat Republican candidate. This year (as in 2010 and 2014) most of them were far from being convincing..

Since when do I belove 'True Progressives?'  I'm probably at least as conservative as you are on economic issues.

I have almost as much contempt for Bernie Sanders types and their simple solutions as I have for Donald Trump types and their insane solutions.

[smoltchanov]

^ Sorry. I didn't noticed that in your posts. May be i was wrong. Nevertheless i think that main part of my post is correct: Rhode Island is NOT so liberal as many people think (and this year, despite obviously voting for Hillary. it made substantial swing to Trump). There are no easy solutions for problems of this non-growing state, so - we will see. Probably - no governor here will be especially popular

[136or142]

^ Sorry. I didn't noticed that in your posts. May be i was wrong. Nevertheless i think that main part of my post is correct: Rhode Island is NOT so liberal as many people think (and this year, despite obviously voting for Hillary. it made substantial swing to Trump). There are no easy solutions for problems of this non-growing state, so - we will see. Probably - no governor here will be especially popular

I think the swing to Trump is a reaction to the unpopularity of Gina Raimondo, and previously wrote that on this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=254503.msg5434588#msg5434588

1.Kansas unpopularity of Sam Brownback.

I think this also is the best explanation for the Democratic Presidential decline in Connecticut and Rhode Island (there was no similar decline in those states in the aggregate Congressional vote) with the unpopularity of Governors Dan Malloy and Gina Raimondo.  I think the extreme unpopularity of Dan Malloy has been well covered, but on Gina Raimondo:

http://www.golocalprov.com/politics/fecteau-raimondo-deserves-a-credible-primary-opponent

"Mrs. Raimondo’s approval rating barely ekes above 40% for a reason — making her one of the least popular governors throughout the country. Some of it has to do with her inability to connect working and middle-income families she represents (she is an asocial introvert), but much of it has to do with the fact she is so inundated with controversy, makes poor decisions, and has a track record that doesn’t correspond with her campaign promises. "


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Morning Consult's latest survey of the nation's governors shows that Gina Raimondo's approval/disapproval track has slipped slightly, to 38 percent/55 percent. The poll of registered voters has a six percentage point margin of error.

Probably not coincidently about one month before the first article, somebody at the Wall Street Journal wrote an opinion editorial praising Raimondo:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-island-of-rationality-in-blue-state-new-england-1479513092

[smoltchanov]

^ Well, Raimondo ran in 2014 as "fiscal conservative", IIRC... So, it must NOT be too surprising, that WSJ praises her. And 38-55, while obviously low, still stands substantially higher then Brownback's "about 20". So - may be, but not neccessary, IMHO.... And Republicans, who are usually in dire minority in Rhode Island, badly need their "own" Baker, Scott or Hogan.... That's why a candidacy of Avedisian comes to mind: longtime mayor of large (by RI standard) Warwick, and popular...

[136or142]

^ Well, Raimondo ran in 2014 as "fiscal conservative", IIRC... So, it must NOT be too surprising, that WSJ praises her. And 38-55, while obviously low, still stands substantially higher then Brownback's "about 20". So - may be, but not neccessary, IMHO.... And Republicans, who are usually in dire minority in Rhode Island, badly need their "own" Baker, Scott or Hogan.... That's why a candidacy of Avedisian comes to mind: longtime mayor of large (by RI standard) Warwick, and popular...

If he runs for Governor then in 2018 it strikes me that makes it all the more imperative for Democrats to primary Raimondo.

[smoltchanov]

^ May be. If everything goes normal we will know in 1 - 1.5 years...

[BuckeyeNut]

Our Revolution took out a fair few incumbent Democrats in the State Legislator this year, so I'd hazard a yes.

[Kingpoleon]

Hopefully. If not, Ken Block or Robert Nardolillo could beat her.

[Figueira]

Raimondo won the 2014 primary with 42.15% of the vote, so I'd imagine if the anti-Raimondo faction can agree on a candidate, they have a chance at beating her. As for the general, who knows? I don't think being a "progressive" is a death sentence in Rhode Island.

[smoltchanov]

Raimondo won the 2014 primary with 42.15% of the vote, so I'd imagine if the anti-Raimondo faction can agree on a candidate, they have a chance at beating her. As for the general, who knows? I don't think being a "progressive" is a death sentence in Rhode Island.

No, of course. Claiborn Pell proved it long ago. Nevertheless - state has a lot of relatively conservative Democrats as successfull politicians (mostly on state level), and some not very conservative Republicans, who were successfull too...

[Figueira]

Raimondo won the 2014 primary with 42.15% of the vote, so I'd imagine if the anti-Raimondo faction can agree on a candidate, they have a chance at beating her. As for the general, who knows? I don't think being a "progressive" is a death sentence in Rhode Island.

No, of course. Claiborn Pell proved it long ago. Nevertheless - state has a lot of relatively conservative Democrats as successfull politicians (mostly on state level), and some not very conservative Republicans, who were successfull too...

I never suggested otherwise?

[smoltchanov]

Raimondo won the 2014 primary with 42.15% of the vote, so I'd imagine if the anti-Raimondo faction can agree on a candidate, they have a chance at beating her. As for the general, who knows? I don't think being a "progressive" is a death sentence in Rhode Island.

No, of course. Claiborn Pell proved it long ago. Nevertheless - state has a lot of relatively conservative Democrats as successfull politicians (mostly on state level), and some not very conservative Republicans, who were successfull too...

I never suggested otherwise?

No. I simply went into details..

[NerdyBohemian]

Between Bernie winning the primary here, and several fake Democrats losing their primaries, I hope RI Democrats are waking up and primary her.

[Figueira]

Raimondo won the 2014 primary with 42.15% of the vote, so I'd imagine if the anti-Raimondo faction can agree on a candidate, they have a chance at beating her. As for the general, who knows? I don't think being a "progressive" is a death sentence in Rhode Island.

No, of course. Claiborn Pell proved it long ago. Nevertheless - state has a lot of relatively conservative Democrats as successfull politicians (mostly on state level), and some not very conservative Republicans, who were successfull too...

I never suggested otherwise?

No. I simply went into details..

Fair enough.

[Maxwell]

This is probably obvious - Not very popular, generally considered a right of center anti-union technocrat. Not sure who is going to jump in but it is going to be someone.

Rhode Island is kind of in a hopeless tailspin, and nothing Raimondo or Chafee could've done would've made it better (though Chafee is so inept tht nothing would've gotten done ANYWAY).

[hopper]

^ Sorry. I didn't noticed that in your posts. May be i was wrong. Nevertheless i think that main part of my post is correct: Rhode Island is NOT so liberal as many people think (and this year, despite obviously voting for Hillary. it made substantial swing to Trump). There are no easy solutions for problems of this non-growing state, so - we will see. Probably - no governor here will be especially popular

While on the state level I would say the state is center-left ideologically but on the federal level the state is liberal.

[smoltchanov]

^ Sorry. I didn't noticed that in your posts. May be i was wrong. Nevertheless i think that main part of my post is correct: Rhode Island is NOT so liberal as many people think (and this year, despite obviously voting for Hillary. it made substantial swing to Trump). There are no easy solutions for problems of this non-growing state, so - we will see. Probably - no governor here will be especially popular

While on the state level I would say the state is center-left ideologically but on the federal level the state is liberal.

We talked exactly about state level (governorship, legislature, and so on)

[Chief Justice Keef]

I could see one of the newly elected Sanders state legislators like Jeanine Calkin going after Raimondo.