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« Reply #450 on: May 04, 2017, 10:51:30 PM »
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Thing went way more sideways in the Youngstown local elections that I realized. Every candidate endorsed by the Mahoning County Democratic Party lost their primary.

The mahoning valley is changing quickly

You think it's really an extension of the Trump phenomenon? Or is it more corruption associated with specific high ranking Dems in Youngstown?

The latter. Also some race dynamics. Mahoning County Young Dems endorsed a lot of candidates the County Party didn't.
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« Reply #451 on: May 04, 2017, 10:56:44 PM »
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Thing went way more sideways in the Youngstown local elections that I realized. Every candidate endorsed by the Mahoning County Democratic Party lost their primary.

The mahoning valley is changing quickly

You think it's really an extension of the Trump phenomenon? Or is it more corruption associated with specific high ranking Dems in Youngstown?
A combo of the both, more than some blue collar dems have left, at the same time corruption has caused splits among some of the remaining members
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« Reply #452 on: May 05, 2017, 11:06:47 AM »
Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.
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« Reply #453 on: May 05, 2017, 11:19:58 AM »
Quote from: Rust Belt or Die on May 05, 2017, 11:06:47 AM
Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.

Interestingly, his main opponent Husted has been a frequent and vocal supporter of redistricting reform for some time.
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« Reply #454 on: May 05, 2017, 11:28:55 AM »
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Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.

Interestingly, his main opponent Husted has been a frequent and vocal supporter of redistricting reform for some time.

Yeah, I suspect Husted will leverage that attack against him.
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« Reply #455 on: May 07, 2017, 10:15:14 AM »
Officially in, not challenging Mandel for Senate.
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« Reply #456 on: May 07, 2017, 10:55:16 AM »

I think he's the best in the field right now. Both parties.
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« Reply #457 on: May 07, 2017, 11:05:39 AM »
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Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.

Interestingly, his main opponent Husted has been a frequent and vocal supporter of redistricting reform for some time.

Fully independent or just with strong guidelines, a la Iowa?
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« Reply #458 on: May 07, 2017, 12:12:52 PM »
OH-GOV 2018 is Lean R. Either Husted or DeWine could win. However, since the Ohio Republican Party is changing post-Kasich, do Republicans distance from Kasich or do they align themselves with his record to win some of Kasich's blue-collar base?
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« Reply #459 on: May 07, 2017, 12:58:41 PM »
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OH-GOV 2018 is Lean R. Either Husted or DeWine could win. However, since the Ohio Republican Party is changing post-Kasich, do Republicans distance from Kasich or do they align themselves with his record to win some of Kasich's blue-collar base?

Kasich has no "blue collar base"
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« Reply #460 on: May 07, 2017, 01:00:26 PM »
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Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.

Interestingly, his main opponent Husted has been a frequent and vocal supporter of redistricting reform for some time.

Fully independent or just with strong guidelines, a la Iowa?

I think the bill he put forward several time was for at least one member of the minority party on the apportionment board had to approve the map.
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« Reply #461 on: May 07, 2017, 01:16:50 PM »
So a pretty weak protection, since it'd still be up to partisan electeds.
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« Reply #462 on: May 07, 2017, 03:29:23 PM »
Quote from: Rust Belt or Die on May 07, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
So a pretty weak protection, since it'd still be up to partisan electeds.

That's if you think there is such a thing as non-partisan (unless computers do it, there isnt)
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« Reply #463 on: May 08, 2017, 07:03:30 AM »
No. There may not be such a thing as someone who's truly political independent, but you can do much better than blatantly partisan electeds.
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« Reply #464 on: May 08, 2017, 08:47:34 AM »
Whaley's official, y'all.
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« Reply #465 on: May 08, 2017, 12:37:33 PM »
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Quote from: KingSweden on May 07, 2017, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: Rjjr77 on May 05, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Rust Belt or Die on May 05, 2017, 11:06:47 AM
Mike DeWine killed a Fair Redistricting amendment yesterday. Republicans in the State poll as favoring fair districts, so this may bite him.

Interestingly, his main opponent Husted has been a frequent and vocal supporter of redistricting reform for some time.

Fully independent or just with strong guidelines, a la Iowa?

I think the bill he put forward several time was for at least one member of the minority party on the apportionment board had to approve the map.

Better than nothing I suppose. Still think the Iowa method is the best.
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« Reply #466 on: May 08, 2017, 05:33:34 PM »

Probably the second best candidate, after Cordray. Good to see (almost) A-list candidates jump in. Hopefully Wisconsin dems also get a clue.
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« Reply #467 on: May 08, 2017, 10:17:16 PM »
Quote from: Kamala on May 08, 2017, 05:33:34 PM

Probably the second best candidate, after Cordray. Good to see (almost) A-list candidates jump in. Hopefully Wisconsin dems also get a clue.

Maybe it's cause I lean the opposite way but I think she's a weak candidate headed for a 3rd place finish in the primary.
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« Reply #468 on: May 08, 2017, 10:40:42 PM »
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Quote from: Kamala on May 08, 2017, 05:33:34 PM

Probably the second best candidate, after Cordray. Good to see (almost) A-list candidates jump in. Hopefully Wisconsin dems also get a clue.

Maybe it's cause I lean the opposite way but I think she's a weak candidate headed for a 3rd place finish in the primary.

Whaley really should've run for Turner's seat, she's gonna come in dead last.
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« Reply #469 on: May 08, 2017, 10:45:36 PM »
Quote from: Fearless Leader X on May 08, 2017, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: Rjjr77 on May 08, 2017, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Kamala on May 08, 2017, 05:33:34 PM

Probably the second best candidate, after Cordray. Good to see (almost) A-list candidates jump in. Hopefully Wisconsin dems also get a clue.

Maybe it's cause I lean the opposite way but I think she's a weak candidate headed for a 3rd place finish in the primary.

Whaley really should've run for Turner's seat, she's gonna come in dead last.
Yeah, I'm not in anyway enthralled. I agree with X and RJ's analyses.
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« Reply #470 on: May 08, 2017, 10:46:46 PM »
I'm just optimistic, I guess. I might be 100% incorrect, but that's fine Smiley.
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« Reply #471 on: May 08, 2017, 11:35:37 PM »
Cordray needs to get fired soon so he can run.

Maybe he can just start openly mocking Trump's hand size on twitter?
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« Reply #472 on: May 09, 2017, 02:33:26 PM »
Quote from: Technocratic Timmy on May 08, 2017, 11:35:37 PM
Cordray needs to get fired soon so he can run.

Maybe he can just start openly mocking Trump's hand size on twitter?

He should get liberals to accuse him of being #PresidentCordray and leak to a bunch of gullible reporters that he's the power behind the administration Tongue
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« Reply #473 on: May 10, 2017, 06:11:07 PM »
Sorry to all fans of TD, but Cordray ain't running.
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« Reply #474 on: May 10, 2017, 06:57:23 PM »
Quote from: Rust Belt or Die on May 10, 2017, 06:11:07 PM
Sorry to all fans of TD, but Cordray ain't running.
Is he out officially?
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