OH: More Money Stuff (August)

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Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

[The Other Castro]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

[BuckeyeNut]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

You're ****ing insane if you think 1: the only options are Assad or ISIS and 2: anyone cares what a cracked out California thinks about an election in more-red-than-purple Ohio.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

You're ****ing insane if you think 1: the only options are Assad or ISIS and 2: anyone cares what a cracked out California thinks about an election in more-red-than-purple Ohio.

So your plan was to defeat Assad and ISIS at the same time? And I'm the insane one?

[The Other Castro]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

I'm gonna go ahead and pick door number three out of that false choice and maintain my opinion that one shouldn't make excuses for war criminals. I'm not trying to solve the Syrian Civil War here.

[Kamala]

jfern: Hillary or Assad?

[BuckeyeNut]

Endorsed. Fun fact, Kucinch once had a hit put on him by the mob for blocking a corrupt utility privatization deal.

He's also on record defending Assad but that's neither here nor there.

You mean like he supported Saddam by voting against the $5.6 trillion Iraq war?

Yeah no

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/former_rep_dennis_kucinich_aga.html

And he's better than ISIS whom was going to stay strong if we kept funding the jihadists. Pick one, Assad or ISIS. It looks like Trump picked Assad anyways.

You're ****ing insane if you think 1: the only options are Assad or ISIS and 2: anyone cares what a cracked out California thinks about an election in more-red-than-purple Ohio.

So your plan was to defeat Assad and ISIS at the same time? And I'm the insane one?

I don't have a plan, but anyone who seems a complex matter of international affairs as a simple one of black and white is, well, blind. Basically what Castro said. But, this is off topic.

Kucinich used to be a pretty cool dude, and good ol' thorn in the side to the political establishment as a progressive populist. He's become a major wackadoo since he left Congress, and is considerably right-leaning.

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I'm gonna go ahead and pick door number three out of that false choice and maintain my opinion that one shouldn't make excuses for war criminals. I'm not trying to solve the Syrian Civil War here.

I don't have a plan, but anyone who seems a complex matter of international affairs as a simple one of black and white is, well, blind. Basically what Castro said. But, this is off topic.

Kucinich used to be a pretty cool dude, and good ol' thorn in the side to the political establishment as a progressive populist. He's become a major wackadoo since he left Congress, and is considerably right-leaning.

Come on, no one is saying that Assad is a good person, but he's obviously better than ISIS. Obviously Assad, ISIS, and the Bush administration are all war criminals.

[BuckeyeNut]

And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

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And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

[BuckeyeNut]

And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

He's not pro Assad. He's just against funding jihadists that only help ISIS. Maybe he shouldn't have actually met Assad so that every dumbass thinks that he's pro-Assad, but he's not.

[The Other Castro]

And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

He's not pro Assad. He's just against funding jihadists that only help ISIS. Maybe he shouldn't have actually met Assad so that every dumbass thinks that he's pro-Assad, but he's not.

You're the one that thinks being anti-Assad = pro-ISIS...

Anyways, I didn't intend to steer this away too far from the main discussion, just pointing to an immediate fault I have with him, demonstrating fault in position and weakness as a politician, which I don't think is good for a candidate in this race.

[Former Kentuckian]

Assad being a possible topic in the Ohio gubernatorial election is quintessential post-Trump politics. We fall further down the rabbit hole every day.

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And supporting one war criminal over another, as opposed to supporting none, makes Kucinich an FF?

Not being pro ISIS is basic common sense that you would expect from any reasonable person.

Yes. And it does not follow as any measure of common sense that being anti-ISIS necessitates being pro-Assad. Kucinich used to be a real anti-interventionist for moral reasons. Now he's a Gabbard-esque shill and husk of the progressive populist he used to be.

He's not pro Assad. He's just against funding jihadists that only help ISIS. Maybe he shouldn't have actually met Assad so that every dumbass thinks that he's pro-Assad, but he's not.

You're the one that thinks being anti-Assad = pro-ISIS...

Anyways, I didn't intend to steer this away too far from the main discussion, just pointing to an immediate fault I have with him, demonstrating fault in position and weakness as a politician, which I don't think is good for a candidate in this race.

Arming the jihadists, as the Obama administration was doing, is pro ISIS pro Al Qaeda.  Kucinch wasn't supporting doing anything to help Assad, just to stop arming terrorists. What has this country come to when it's considered controversial to not arm terrorists?

[Dr. MB]

Bashar Al Assad has nothing to do with the ability to govern the state of Ohio.

[BuckeyeNut]

Bashar Al Assad has nothing to do with the ability to govern the state of Ohio.

Kucinich could only win the general by running as a Trumpist, which even with a clown car Democratic primary, is not the way toward getting the nomination. (Though weird things can and will happen with a field this large, and I only expect it to get bigger.)

[America Needs R'hllor]

I'm gonna go ahead and pick door number three out of that false choice and maintain my opinion that one shouldn't make excuses for war criminals. I'm not trying to solve the Syrian Civil War here.

I don't have a plan, but anyone who seems a complex matter of international affairs as a simple one of black and white is, well, blind. Basically what Castro said. But, this is off topic.

Kucinich used to be a pretty cool dude, and good ol' thorn in the side to the political establishment as a progressive populist. He's become a major wackadoo since he left Congress, and is considerably right-leaning.

Come on, no one is saying that Assad is a good person, but he's obviously better than ISIS. Obviously Assad, ISIS, and the Bush administration are all war criminals.

Lol, nice try.
Also, wtf, this field is getting insane. I hope Cordray manages to clean this up and no clown like Kucinish wins.

[Chief Justice Keef]

OMG YES KUCINICH

Nevermind. http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/01/dennis_kucinich_cheers_preside.html
That's lame.

[Usili]

So O'Neill is leaving the court on January 27th and picks Lorain City Schools Principal Chantelle E. Lewis as his Lieutenant Governor: https://twitter.com/jpelzer/status/950738443721723904

[Usili]

Apparently per Jason Williams, Mary Taylor is expected to name Proctor Gamble VP Nathan Estruth as her running mate: https://twitter.com/jwilliamscincy/status/950757548633853952

[Devout Centrist]

Bashar Al Assad has nothing to do with the ability to govern the state of Ohio.

You're right, Kucinich fails by that metric, too

[Usili]

And per Howard Wilkinson, an expectation that Cordray will name Betty Sutton as his Lieutenant Governor: https://twitter.com/howardwilkinson/status/950761546191384582

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Kucinich will pick Turner as lt. gov. I'm calling it.