Can Republicans Simultaneously Win Suburbanites and the Working Class with Marco

[Person Man]

lol, still idolizing Flawless Beautiful Marco , are we? He might do better among conservative Latinos, but he'd do worse among rural white voters.

Rubio's future is dependent on how whether Trump manages to transform the Republican Party from a Conservative into a Nationalist Party or becomes generic R by 2020. I can see Rubio running with Pence in 2024 if Trump only wins in 2020 because he basically governs as W's 3rd term and runs for his 4th. I see that as Rubio's most conventional path. Maybe he wins as early as 2020 if Trump gets impeached, Pence becomes W's 3rd term and he picks him to be his VP.

[Person Man]

I don't see how either political party will win both of these groups in the long term. Their agendas and priorities are too different. They're only on the same side right now (although suburbanites are clearly moving away) because of their mutual disdain for SJWs.

Matthew 6:24: You will either hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

And Cruz is safe, even if only because campaigning in Texas is so expensive that Chuck Schumer would be a fool to campaign there and waste enough money to campaign in 4 or 5 other states in a Likely R state as big as that.

If Trump is at 40% and he is still angry at Cruz being a cuck anything can happen. Unless of course Cruz can convince the people we can have an effective discourse with one party.

[Person Man]

I don't see how either political party will win both of these groups in the long term. Their agendas and priorities are too different. They're only on the same side right now (although suburbanites are clearly moving away) because of their mutual disdain for SJWs.

Matthew 6:24: You will either hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.

And Cruz is safe, even if only because campaigning in Texas is so expensive that Chuck Schumer would be a fool to campaign there and waste enough money to campaign in 4 or 5 other states in a Likely R state as big as that.

If Trump is at 40% and he is still angry at Cruz being a cuck anything can happen. Unless of course Cruz can convince the people we can have an effective discourse with one party.

Dems still wouldn't spend money there. Look how they stayed away from Florida this year even though the race was within 5 points. If they can spend the same amount of money as they'd spend in Texas to compete in 5 other states, they'll do it.

They need a self-funder worth >$100M who can peel off anti-Trump libertarian-type Republicans.  Hence my suggestion of Mark Cuban as the best possible statewide Dem candidate in Texas. 

Cruz is incredibly popular among such Republicans, particularly in Texas. For some reason, most of Rand's support seemed to go to Cruz in the primary when Rand dropped out.

Oops, misread.  I thought we were assuming Cruz loses the primary to a stronger Trump supporter.  If Cruz makes it out of the primary, the optimal Dem candidate is an outsider who can peel off Trump supporters.  If Cruz loses the primary or takes an appointment of some kind, the optimal Dem candidate is anti-Trump with a libertarian side.

I see; that makes sense. In a state like Texas, I'd say the only at it works is if somehow Cruz is not the nominee and you can get a self-funding and already-well-known candidate like Cuban in there (if he even would run as a Democrat), and even then, it's Texas.

2018 would be the time for Cuban provided Trump isn't a War President yet.