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RINO Tom
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« on: December 16, 2016, 11:42:30 AM »

Not with Marco, but the if you cross out "with Marco" from the thread title, the answer is absolutely yes!  People act like McKinley, Coolidge, Eisenhower and Reagan won with an entirely different coalition (excluding, of course, the Black/Southern White vote) than a Republican who'd get a big EC victory in the 21st Century would.  That's crazy.  Any Republican who is going to have anything close to a landslide win is going to win both the rural and suburban vote, including much of the working class in both.  The working class in cities has been solidly Democratic since well before the New Deal, and I highly doubt we'll ever win them.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2016, 05:27:36 PM »

No.  Republicans made a deal with the devil.  They are the party of the working poor (whites).  Major, highly educated suburbs are long gone for them.  This trend will continue as it has been for years.  And acting as if Trump did this to the Republican party is a joke.  Well educated suburbs have been trending to the Democrats for years, Trump just hastened that push.  Little Marco isn't going to save the GOP with his anti-gay, anti-abortion views.

They are lucky though, there aren't a lot of highly educated suburbanites in many swing states, or at least there are more working poor than them in the swing states that decided the last election (MI, FL, etc.).

LOL, if Hillary had won either one of those states, you'd describe both as these highly cosmopolitan areas that could never be won by Republicans.  You'll probably consider this TROLLING, but here are the exit poll totals:

FLORIDA
Suburban Vote: 53% Trump, 43% Clinton
Wealthy Vote: 56% Trump, 40% Clinton
College Grad Vote: 49% Trump, 46% Clinton (literally did better with college graduates than non-college graduates... LOL)

So, in Florida, Trump won the suburban vote, the wealthy vote AND the college-educated vote.  You are quite literally super wrong.

MICHIGAN
Suburban Vote: 53% Trump, 42% Clinton
Wealthy Vote: 51% Trump, 43% Clinton
College Grad Vote: 50% Clinton, 44% Trump ... congrats, you're right on one thing.

In Michigan, Trump won the suburban vote, he won the wealthy vote and he lost the college-grad vote by just 6%.  Considering that he probably got CLOBBERED with the urban college-grad vote, I'm willing to bet he won the suburban college-grad vote.

In neither of those states did these mythical elite suburbanites you have wet dreams about give Clinton the main base of her support.
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RINO Tom
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2016, 04:53:16 PM »

I just kind of thought of this, but why on Earth are we acting like a TON of suburbs aren't working class?  There are going to be differences, of course (e.g., some rich suburb of NYC), but I'm willing to bet that the majority of suburbs that have trended Democratic have also become a lot more diverse and, YES, more economically diverse, too.
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