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« Reply #600 on: June 21, 2020, 10:28:54 AM »
« edited: June 21, 2020, 12:08:40 PM by Mr. Morden »

Harris now trading above 50 in the VP market…

Democratic VP nominee
Harris 51.6
Demings 16.8
Rice 11.4
Bottoms 5.5
Warren 5.5
M. Obama 3.4
Duckworth 3.2

Four years ago today:

Democratic VP nominee
Kaine 29.6
Warren 22.6
Castro 16.3
Perez 11.9
Booker 10.0
Patrick 9.5

Republican VP nominee
Sessions 32.9
Gingrich 19.6
Kasich 12.8
Christie 10.0
Ernst 5.3
Brown 4.5

Eight years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3332391#msg3332391

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Republican VP nominee
Portman 24.7
Pawlenty 24.0
Rubio 7.7
Jindal 7.0
Ryan 5.5
Christie 5.0
Thune 5.0
McDonnell 3.0
McMorris-Rodgers 2.0
Rand Paul 2.0
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« Reply #601 on: June 21, 2020, 10:33:44 AM »

Warren at 5 percent
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« Reply #602 on: June 24, 2020, 09:22:35 PM »

Rice now tied with Demings for 2nd place in the VP market:

Democratic VP nominee
Harris 52.4
Demings 13.1
Rice 13.1
Warren 5.1
Bottoms 4.8
M. Obama 3.8
Duckworth 3.0

Four years ago today:

Democratic VP nominee
Kaine 38.0
Warren 18.6
Castro 17.4
Perez 11.6
Becerra 9.1

Republican VP nominee
Sessions 32.4
Gingrich 22.2
Kasich 13.8
Christie 12.2
Cotton 11.6

Eight years ago at this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3334265#msg3334265

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Republican VP nominee
Portman 23.4
Pawlenty 20.8
Rubio 11.5
Ryan 11.0
Jindal 7.2
Thune 5.0
Christie 4.5
McDonnell 2.3
Rand Paul 1.9
Rice 1.9
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« Reply #603 on: June 28, 2020, 03:08:44 PM »

Duckworth now up to 5th place:

Democratic VP nominee
Harris 50.9
Demings 12.4
Rice 12.2
Warren 6.8
Duckworth 5.8
Bottoms 4.3
M. Obama 4.3
Abrams 2.2
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« Reply #604 on: July 02, 2020, 09:49:17 PM »

Harris remains way ahead of everyone else, with Rice now moving up to 2nd:

Democratic VP nominee
Harris 52.4
Rice 12.4
Demings 9.8
Duckworth 8.4
Warren 4.8
Bottoms 4.0
M. Obama 3.4
Grisham 2.9

Four years ago at this point:

Dem VP
Kaine 42.2
Warren 20.8
Castro 13.8
Perez 8.4
Brown 7.2
Becerra 6.8

GOP VP
Gingrich 26.0
Kasich 20.4
Sessions 16.8
Christie 14.5
Pence 8.4
Corker 6.5

Eight years ago at about this time on Intrade:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3340843#msg3340843

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 24.0
Pawlenty 17.9
Rubio 13.5
Thune 7.0
Ryan 6.5
Christie 5.7
Jindal 5.0
McDonnell 4.0
Rice 3.0
Rand Paul 2.0
Ayotte 1.7
Heineman 1.5
Ron Paul 1.5
McMorris-Rodgers 1.4
J. Bush 1.1

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1615155#msg1615155

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Dem VP nominee
Webb 24.9
Clinton 17.0
Bayh 10.0
Gephardt 10.0
Sebelius 9.1
McCaskill 8.5
Rendell 8.0
Hagel 7.5
Biden 6.3
Gore 6.0

GOP VP nominee
Romney 25.0
Pawlenty 16.0
Palin 15.0
Crist 11.4
Huckabee 11.3
Cantor 10.0
Thune 10.0
Portman 9.3
Jindal 8.0
Lieberman 5.5
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« Reply #605 on: July 06, 2020, 11:07:18 PM »

Harris has dropped below 50 in the VP market, as Rice surges....

Winning Individual
Biden 57.9
Trump 41.4

Dem. pres. nominee
Biden 95.0
Clinton 3.0
M. Obama 0.7
Harris 0.5
Cuomo 0.4

GOP pres. nominee
Trump 92.3
Pence 7.5

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 46.3
Rice 22.6
Duckworth 9.8
Demings 8.4
Warren 4.8
Bottoms 4.2
M. Obama 3.7
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« Reply #606 on: July 06, 2020, 11:28:59 PM »

Who's been showing up on the Pundit shows recently? KLB, Rice and Duckworth right?
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« Reply #607 on: July 09, 2020, 10:19:17 PM »

Dem. VP
Harris 45.5
Rice 18.9
Duckworth 12.4
Warren 6.8
Demings 6.0
M. Obama 3.8
Bottoms 3.0
Grisham 2.6

Four years ago today:

Dem VP
Kaine 45.0
Brown 21.7
Warren 19.0
Castro 17.4
Booker 9.1
Perez 9.1

GOP VP
Gingrich 29.2
Pence 27.7
Kasich 11.1
Sessions 10.5
Christie 8.1
Webb 4.8
Fallin 4.5

Eight years ago at about this time on Intrade:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3350891#msg3350891

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GOP VP
Portman 30.9
Pawlenty 17.6
Rubio 9.2
Jindal 6.7
Thune 5.9
Ryan 4.1
Rice 4.0
Ayotte 3.4
Christie 2.8
McDonnell 2.7
McMorris-Rodgers 1.9
Martinez 1.0
J. Bush 0.6
Rand Paul 0.6
Ron Paul 0.6

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1622826#msg1622826

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Dem VP
Clinton 15.3
Bayh 11.9
Sebelius 10.3
Hagel 10.0
Kaine 8.5
Biden 8.1
Richardson 6.1
Nunn 6.0
McCaskill 5.1

GOP VP
Romney 26.9
Huckabee 14.0
Pawlenty 14.0
Crist 10.0
Portman 8.0
Fiorina 7.0
Palin 7.0
Thune 6.0
Cantor 5.0
Jindal 4.0
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« Reply #608 on: July 11, 2020, 01:05:12 PM »

Trump's dropped below 40 on winning individual.  Kanye West's in a (distant) 5th place:

Winning Individual
Biden 58.8
Trump 37.8
Clinton 1.1
Pence 1.1
West 0.7
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« Reply #609 on: July 11, 2020, 01:12:33 PM »

Trump's dropped below 40 on winning individual.  Kanye West's in a (distant) 5th place:

Winning Individual
Biden 58.8
Trump 37.8
Clinton 1.1
Pence 1.1
West 0.7


Who's betting on Hillary to win, and why?
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« Reply #610 on: July 11, 2020, 01:28:57 PM »

Trump's dropped below 40 on winning individual.  Kanye West's in a (distant) 5th place:

Winning Individual
Biden 58.8
Trump 37.8
Clinton 1.1
Pence 1.1
West 0.7


Who's betting on Hillary to win, and why?

Probably the same conspiracy theorists who think the Clintons still control the Democratic Party, and Biden is a stalking horse for the Clintons or whatever.  Then I guess there are also people who bought Clinton at a higher price a couple of years ago (and others who bet against on the other side of the contract), who now want to dump their shares for a lower price a month before this cashes out, or something like that.
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« Reply #611 on: July 12, 2020, 02:55:53 PM »

Duckworth creeping up closer to Rice to challenger her for the #2 spot….

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 44.2
Rice 15.2
Duckworth 14.3
Warren 5.4
Demings 5.3
M. Obama 4.2
Grisham 3.7
Bottoms 3.3
Bass 2.8
Clinton 1.5

Four years ago today:

Dem. VP nominee
Kaine 46.3
Warren 18.6
Perez 14.9
Castro 13.1
Brown 10.5

GOP VP nominee
Pence 50.8
Gingrich 19.0
Christie 11.1
Sessions 8.1
Kasich 7.8

Eight years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3352768#msg3352768

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 30.4
Pawlenty 15.2
Rice 9.5
Rubio 8.0
Jindal 6.5
Ryan 5.5
Thune 4.0
Christie 2.4
Ayotte 2.1
McDonnell 2.0
McMorris-Rodgers 1.1
Martinez 1.0
Ron Paul 0.7

Twelve years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1627688#msg1627688

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Dem. VP nominee
Clinton 20.0
Sebelius 15.0
Kaine 12.0
Bayh 10.2
Reed 7.9
Hagel 7.5
Biden 7.2
Nunn 7.0
McCaskill 6.5
Richardson 6.5

GOP VP nominee
Romney 20.0
Pawlenty 14.0
Palin 12.0
Huckabee 11.1
Crist 8.5
Fiorina 7.0
Portman 7.0
Cantor 6.0
Sanford 6.0
Thune 6.0
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« Reply #612 on: July 17, 2020, 10:08:55 PM »

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 42.5
Rice 19.3
Duckworth 13.4
Demings 6.8
Warren 6.5
M. Obama 4.2
Bottoms 3.8
Grisham 2.7

Four years ago today:

Dem. VP nominee
Kaine 56.8
Vilsack 17.4
Warren 15.8
Hickenlooper  10.0
Castro 8.4

Eight years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3357529#msg3357529

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GOP VP nominee
Pawlenty 28.0
Portman 27.7
Rubio 8.5
Jindal 7.6
Ryan 5.3
Rice 5.0
Thune 5.0
Ayotte 4.5
McDonnell 2.0
Christie 1.0
McMorris-Rodgers 0.8
Daniels 0.7
Martinez 0.7

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1633222#msg1633222

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Dem. VP nominee
Sebelius 16.6
Clinton 14.7
Bayh 10.9
Biden 10.2
Kaine 10.0
Hagel 6.8
McCaskill 6.7
Reed 5.3
Clark 5.0
Gephardt 5.0

GOP VP nominee
Romney 26.1
Pawlenty 12.5
Huckabee 11.0
Crist 7.9
Fiorina 7.0
Portman 6.8
Cantor 6.1
Palin 6.0
Thune 6.0
Jindal 5.0
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« Reply #613 on: July 22, 2020, 11:26:49 PM »

Harris has dropped below 40, as Rice surges….

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 38.1
Rice 26.9
Duckworth 10.7
Bass 8.3
Warren 7.5
Demings 6.2

Four years ago today, Clinton named Kaine as her running mate.  Earlier in that day though, here were the Betfair #s:

Dem VP nominee
Kaine 87.7
Vilsack 11.6
Perez 5.3
Warren 2.6

Eight years ago at this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3359873#msg3359873

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 28.0
Pawlenty 25.7
Rubio 8.2
Jindal 6.0
Rice 5.4
Thune 5.4
Ryan 4.5
Ayotte 2.4
McDonnell 1.9
McMorris-Rodgers 1.3
Christie 1.1
Daniels 0.9

Twelve years ago at this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1640181#msg1640181

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Dem. VP nominee
Bayh 15.1
Sebelius 15.1
Biden 15.0
Clinton 13.8
Kaine 12.4
Edwards 8.0
Nunn 8.0
Hagel 7.0
McCaskill 6.7
Clark 6.5

GOP VP nominee
Romney 37.6
Pawlenty 32.3
Palin 13.0
Crist 10.0
Jindal 9.0
Huckabee 7.2
Fiorina 7.0
Portman 7.0
Thune 7.0
Cantor 6.1
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« Reply #614 on: July 23, 2020, 12:43:12 AM »

Duckworth creeping up closer to Rice to challenger her for the #2 spot….

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 44.2
Rice 15.2
Duckworth 14.3
Warren 5.4
Demings 5.3
M. Obama 4.2
Grisham 3.7
Bottoms 3.3
Bass 2.8
Clinton 1.5

Four years ago today:

Dem. VP nominee
Kaine 46.3
Warren 18.6
Perez 14.9
Castro 13.1
Brown 10.5

GOP VP nominee
Pence 50.8
Gingrich 19.0
Christie 11.1
Sessions 8.1
Kasich 7.8

Eight years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3352768#msg3352768

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 30.4
Pawlenty 15.2
Rice 9.5
Rubio 8.0
Jindal 6.5
Ryan 5.5
Thune 4.0
Christie 2.4
Ayotte 2.1
McDonnell 2.0
McMorris-Rodgers 1.1
Martinez 1.0
Ron Paul 0.7

Twelve years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1627688#msg1627688

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Dem. VP nominee
Clinton 20.0
Sebelius 15.0
Kaine 12.0
Bayh 10.2
Reed 7.9
Hagel 7.5
Biden 7.2
Nunn 7.0
McCaskill 6.5
Richardson 6.5

GOP VP nominee
Romney 20.0
Pawlenty 14.0
Palin 12.0
Huckabee 11.1
Crist 8.5
Fiorina 7.0
Portman 7.0
Cantor 6.0
Sanford 6.0
Thune 6.0


6.7% of bettors on Intrade are going to lose a lot of money. Neither Michelle Obama nor Hillary Clinton have given any indication that they even want to be vetted.

That said, Michelle Obama would make the perfect running mate for Biden...
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« Reply #615 on: July 25, 2020, 06:13:08 PM »

Bass surges into 3rd place in the Dem. VP market.  Meanwhile, Pence is below 90 to be the GOP VP nominee.

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 34.8
Rice 23.2
Bass 14.9
Duckworth 12.8
Warren 6.5
Demings 4.3

GOP VP nominee
Pence 88.9
Haley 7.2

Eight years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3366280#msg3366280

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 29.5
Pawlenty 24.6
Rubio 9.1
Thune 7.1
Rice 5.5
Jindal 5.2
McDonnell 5.0
Ryan 3.4
Ayotte 2.2
Christie 1.4
Martinez 0.7
McMorris-Rodgers 0.7

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1642342#msg1642342

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Dem. VP nominee
Bayh 19.8
Sebelius 15.1
Biden 13.4
Kaine 12.6
Clinton 9.2
Nunn 9.0
Edwards 7.5
McCaskill 6.7
Clark 6.5
Reed 6.1

GOP VP nominee
Romney 38.7
Pawlenty 25.0
Palin 15.0
Portman 11.7
Crist 10.0
Thune 10.0
Huckabee 7.2
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« Reply #616 on: July 25, 2020, 10:50:26 PM »

Bass surges into 3rd place in the Dem. VP market.  Meanwhile, Pence is below 90 to be the GOP VP nominee.

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 34.8
Rice 23.2
Bass 14.9
Duckworth 12.8
Warren 6.5
Demings 4.3

GOP VP nominee
Pence 88.9
Haley 7.2

Eight years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3366280#msg3366280

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 29.5
Pawlenty 24.6
Rubio 9.1
Thune 7.1
Rice 5.5
Jindal 5.2
McDonnell 5.0
Ryan 3.4
Ayotte 2.2
Christie 1.4
Martinez 0.7
McMorris-Rodgers 0.7

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1642342#msg1642342

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Dem. VP nominee
Bayh 19.8
Sebelius 15.1
Biden 13.4
Kaine 12.6
Clinton 9.2
Nunn 9.0
Edwards 7.5
McCaskill 6.7
Clark 6.5
Reed 6.1

GOP VP nominee
Romney 38.7
Pawlenty 25.0
Palin 15.0
Portman 11.7
Crist 10.0
Thune 10.0
Huckabee 7.2


I want to know what ghouls are betting on Pence not being Trump's running mate. Do they know something we don't? (Like, does Pence have COVID-19, and these people aren't telling us?)
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« Reply #617 on: July 25, 2020, 11:09:32 PM »


I want to know what ghouls are betting on Pence not being Trump's running mate. Do they know something we don't? (Like, does Pence have COVID-19, and these people aren't telling us?)

People have been fantasizing about Trump dumping Pence for Haley for like three years, nothing new.
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« Reply #618 on: July 28, 2020, 12:01:33 PM »

Bass surges into 3rd place in the Dem. VP market.  Meanwhile, Pence is below 90 to be the GOP VP nominee.

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 34.8
Rice 23.2
Bass 14.9
Duckworth 12.8
Warren 6.5
Demings 4.3

GOP VP nominee
Pence 88.9
Haley 7.2

Eight years ago at about this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3366280#msg3366280

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 29.5
Pawlenty 24.6
Rubio 9.1
Thune 7.1
Rice 5.5
Jindal 5.2
McDonnell 5.0
Ryan 3.4
Ayotte 2.2
Christie 1.4
Martinez 0.7
McMorris-Rodgers 0.7

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1642342#msg1642342

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Dem. VP nominee
Bayh 19.8
Sebelius 15.1
Biden 13.4
Kaine 12.6
Clinton 9.2
Nunn 9.0
Edwards 7.5
McCaskill 6.7
Clark 6.5
Reed 6.1

GOP VP nominee
Romney 38.7
Pawlenty 25.0
Palin 15.0
Portman 11.7
Crist 10.0
Thune 10.0
Huckabee 7.2


Well it usually seems that it's never the favorite on the betting markets. I think Karen Bass is checking a lot of boxes for the Biden campaign and it seems he wants someone who knows they're #2. We'll see, I think out of a Top 5 of Harris, Rice, Bass, Duckworth & Warren, he can do no wrong with who he chooses.
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« Reply #619 on: July 28, 2020, 09:25:55 PM »

Big surge for Harris in the VP market:

Dem. pres. nominee
Biden 96.2
Clinton 2.9
M. Obama 0.6

GOP pres. nominee
Trump 94.1
Pence 3.2
Haley 1.1
Ryan 1.0

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 57.6
Rice 22.6
Duckworth 6.8
Bass 6.4
Warren 5.1

GOP VP nominee
Pence 89.5
Haley 6.5
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« Reply #620 on: July 28, 2020, 10:35:33 PM »
« Edited: July 28, 2020, 10:47:53 PM by pollvaulter »

I want to know what ghouls are betting on Pence not being Trump's running mate. Do they know something we don't? (Like, does Pence have COVID-19, and these people aren't telling us?)

People have been fantasizing about Trump dumping Pence for Haley for like three years, nothing new.

If Trump dropped Pence it wouldn’t be for Haley. Trumps instincts are not to bring in another neocon.

The winning move would be for Tim Scott, remake the campaign about unity.

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« Reply #621 on: July 29, 2020, 12:27:22 AM »

Big surge for Harris in the VP market:

Dem. pres. nominee
Biden 96.2
Clinton 2.9
M. Obama 0.6

GOP pres. nominee
Trump 94.1
Pence 3.2
Haley 1.1
Ryan 1.0

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 57.6
Rice 22.6
Duckworth 6.8
Bass 6.4
Warren 5.1

GOP VP nominee
Pence 89.5
Haley 6.5


We've actually got people who still think Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama will be the Democratic nominee for President?

What on earth is wrong with these people? Hillary's a dead dodo electorally, and Michelle's never expressed interest in elected office (though she'd make a fantastic running mate for Biden...)
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« Reply #622 on: July 29, 2020, 12:53:49 AM »

Big surge for Harris in the VP market:

Dem. pres. nominee
Biden 96.2
Clinton 2.9
M. Obama 0.6

GOP pres. nominee
Trump 94.1
Pence 3.2
Haley 1.1
Ryan 1.0

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 57.6
Rice 22.6
Duckworth 6.8
Bass 6.4
Warren 5.1

GOP VP nominee
Pence 89.5
Haley 6.5


We've actually got people who still think Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama will be the Democratic nominee for President?

What on earth is wrong with these people? Hillary's a dead dodo electorally, and Michelle's never expressed interest in elected office (though she'd make a fantastic running mate for Biden...)

Michelle would be an awful running mate. She’s never held political office.
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« Reply #623 on: July 29, 2020, 12:57:16 AM »

Big surge for Harris in the VP market:

Dem. pres. nominee
Biden 96.2
Clinton 2.9
M. Obama 0.6

GOP pres. nominee
Trump 94.1
Pence 3.2
Haley 1.1
Ryan 1.0

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 57.6
Rice 22.6
Duckworth 6.8
Bass 6.4
Warren 5.1

GOP VP nominee
Pence 89.5
Haley 6.5


We've actually got people who still think Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama will be the Democratic nominee for President?

What on earth is wrong with these people? Hillary's a dead dodo electorally, and Michelle's never expressed interest in elected office (though she'd make a fantastic running mate for Biden...)

Michelle would be an awful running mate. She’s never held political office.

That still makes her a better choice than Susan Rice.
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« Reply #624 on: August 01, 2020, 01:21:08 PM »

Haven’t updated in a few days now, but Harris has dropped down to 40-ish again.  Bass had been surging again big-time up through mid-day yesterday, when she was in the 2nd place, and in the 20s.  But the Scientology story knocked her back into the teens, with Rice again in 2nd place.

Dem. VP nominee
Harris 40.6
Rice 20.5
Bass 16.3
Duckworth 11.6
Warren 6.0
Demings 3.8

Eight years ago at this point on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152060.msg3370997#msg3370997

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GOP VP nominee
Portman 30.5
Pawlenty 24.2
Rubio 10.9
Thune 8.9
Ryan 4.6
McDonnell 4.5
Jindal 4.1
Rice 3.5
Ayotte 2.0
Hutchison 1.2

Twelve years ago today on Intrade:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=78538.msg1651980#msg1651980

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Dem. VP nominee
Kaine 30.1
Bayh 26.0
Sebelius 18.0
Biden 10.7
Schweitzer 5.6
Edwards 5.0
Clinton 4.0
Nunn 4.0
Reed 4.0
Zinni 4.0

GOP VP nominee
Pawlenty 30.0
Romney 29.6
Palin 20.0
Thune 6.0
Huckabee 5.1
Cantor 5.0
Crist 5.0
Giuliani 5.0
Portman 5.0
Ridge 5.0
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