At what point in the day do you think Hillary's team knew things were rough?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Personally I started sh**tting my pants when I saw the early Virginia returns.  I imagine they knew at least by then or more likely before.

Don't know how many elections you've watched closely.  But eventually you'll watch enough of them to know exactly how Virginia counts....and you won't be fooled by VA early returns again.  There's no other state like it out there.  The Republican areas always report early and the Dem areas always report late.

No other state has such a strong and consistent tendency to give misleading early counting results.

Even given that NOVA comes in late, Trump's numbers in other parts of the state were phenomenal.  He was turning light red counties from 2012 into deep red counties.  The math from what would need to come in from the late returns started to look really sketchy.

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

Honestly, Trump's extremely strong numbers in Indiana early on should have been a strong clue.  You don't overperform Romney by 10 points in Indiana and not expect similar figures in Ohio, Michigan, etc.

[jaichind]

Honestly, Trump's extremely strong numbers in Indiana early on should have been a strong clue.  You don't overperform Romney by 10 points in Indiana and not expect similar figures in Ohio, Michigan, etc.

I was thinking the same but thought it was because of Pence.  When I saw the same in KY then I knew Trump would at least be close.

[EpicHistory]

She knew. She wasn't campaigning in Michigan and Pennsylvania at the end because she felt like it.

This.

It also blows the Comey claims out of the water, because a simple Google search she was campaigning extensively in Michigan back in early October for example (Also shows the debates weren't either as important as claimed, or Trump won them where it counted).

[GMantis]

Personally I started sh**tting my pants when I saw the early Virginia returns.  I imagine they knew at least by then or more likely before.

Don't know how many elections you've watched closely.  But eventually you'll watch enough of them to know exactly how Virginia counts....and you won't be fooled by VA early returns again.  There's no other state like it out there.  The Republican areas always report early and the Dem areas always report late.

No other state has such a strong and consistent tendency to give misleading early counting results.

In this election however the early returns in Virginia were even more Republican than usual. In Virginia itself this didn't due to the even greater swing towards the Democrats in their strongholds, but it was an early sign that Trump was doing better than expected.

[Peeperkorn]

Just curious, since presumably their intense data operation would have been spitting out unfavourable metrics in real time.

I suspect they knew they were in trouble from internal polling soon after Comey intervened in the race. They couldn't know if they were going to pull it out or not until the returns started coming in.

I don't believe that the mails scandal had anything to do with the election results. She would have lost anyway.