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jaichind
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POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 06:55:25 AM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/politico-morning-consult-poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-230818
Clinton 45
Trump 42
Johnson 8
Stein 4
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President Johnson
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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The Johnson/Stein numbers are way too high.
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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Quote from: President Johnson on November 06, 2016, 06:56:22 AM
The Johnson/Stein numbers are way too high.
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jaichind
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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Quote from: President Johnson on November 06, 2016, 06:56:22 AM
The Johnson/Stein numbers are way too high.
Yep. Net net should slightly benefit Trump in the final tactical voting analysis assuming it will end up being something like Johnson 4 Stein 2 but not enough to overcome a 3 point Clinton lead.
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President Johnson
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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Quote from: jaichind on November 06, 2016, 06:57:34 AM
Quote from: President Johnson on November 06, 2016, 06:56:22 AM
The Johnson/Stein numbers are way too high.
Yep. Net net should slightly benefit Trump in the final tactical voting analysis assuming it will end up being something like Johnson 4 Stein 2 but not enough to overcome a 3 point Clinton lead.
Yep. Though 1% for Stein is more realistic. Johnson at 4% looks about right.
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The Daily Beagle
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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I think this is about right.
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jaichind
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 07:18:23 AM »
This poll has been consistently Clinton +6 during pro-Clinton news cycles and Clinton +3 during pro-Trump or neutral news cycles the entire time.
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Eraserhead
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 07:38:12 AM »
This poll hardly ever changes.
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dspNY
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 08:03:22 AM »
Quote from: jaichind on November 06, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
This poll has been consistently Clinton +6 during pro-Clinton news cycles and Clinton +3 during pro-Trump or neutral news cycles the entire time.
I think that's actually accurate, to tell you the truth
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IceSpear
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 01:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on November 06, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: Eraserhead on November 06, 2016, 07:38:12 AM
This poll hardly ever changes.
Same with the YouGov national. They have both returned Clinton +3 almost continuously since June.
I'd prefer that to CNN, which flips from Trump +5 to Clinton +10 whenever one of them farts too loud.
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Mr. Morden
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 01:54:38 PM »
Dems
Clinton 87%
Trump 8%
Johnson 3%
Stein 2%
GOP
Trump 85%
Clinton 9%
Johnson 5%
Stein 1%
Indies
Trump 39%
Clinton 32%
Johnson 17%
Stein 10%
People who support Clinton in the 2-way matchup:
Clinton 93%
Johnson 4%
Stein 3%
Trump 0%
People who support Trump in the 2-way matchup:
Trump 94%
Johnson 4%
Stein 2%
Clinton 1%
(Gotta love that 1% who switch between Clinton and Trump depending on whether you include 3rd parties.)
men: Trump +1
women: Clinton +6
income under $50k: Clinton +5
income $50-100k: Trump +3
income over $100k: Clinton +10
whites: Trump +10
blacks: Clinton +69
Hispanics: Clinton +34
urban: Clinton +29
suburban: Clinton/Trump tie
rural: Trump +19
Midwest: Trump +1
Northeast: Clinton +17
South: Trump +10
West: Clinton +18
So another poll with Clinton leading by more (albeit barely more) in the West than the Northeast, and another one with Trump doing better among those making $50-100k than those making over $100k. This one even has the rich as Clinton’s strongest income group.
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Devout Centrist
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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Mr. Morden
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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fav/unfav %:
Pence 43/36% for +7%
Kaine 34/36% for -2%
Clinton 42/56% for -14%
Johnson 21/35% for -14%
Trump 37/61% for -24%
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 02:09:51 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
fav/unfav %:
Pence 43/36% for +7%
Kaine 34/36% for -2%
Clinton 42/56% for -14%
Johnson 21/35% for -14%
Trump 37/61% for -24%
How in the world does an utter dick like Pence get favorable ratings? That boggles my mind.
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IceSpear
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 02:11:02 PM »
Quote from: Jante's Law Revivalist on November 06, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
fav/unfav %:
Pence 43/36% for +7%
Kaine 34/36% for -2%
Clinton 42/56% for -14%
Johnson 21/35% for -14%
Trump 37/61% for -24%
How in the world does an utter dick like Pence get favorable ratings? That boggles my mind.
Dems didn't bother to demonize him since literally nobody cares. Meanwhile, Republicans successfully demonize anyone with a (D) next to their name (muhhhhh likable Kaine!) Same would've happened with Biden/Sanders or Jesus Christ (D).
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Green Line
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 02:12:20 PM »
Quote from: IceSpear on November 06, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Jante's Law Revivalist on November 06, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
fav/unfav %:
Pence 43/36% for +7%
Kaine 34/36% for -2%
Clinton 42/56% for -14%
Johnson 21/35% for -14%
Trump 37/61% for -24%
How in the world does an utter dick like Pence get favorable ratings? That boggles my mind.
Dems didn't bother to demonize him since literally nobody cares. Meanwhile, Republicans successfully demonize anyone with a (D) next to their name (muhhhhh likable Kaine!) Same would've happened with Biden/Sanders or Jesus Christ (D).
Republicans didn't need to demonize Kaine. For anyone watching the VP debate, he did a good job of that all by himself.
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BlueSwan
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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November 06, 2016, 02:26:15 PM »
Quote from: Jante's Law Revivalist on November 06, 2016, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Morden on November 06, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
fav/unfav %:
Pence 43/36% for +7%
Kaine 34/36% for -2%
Clinton 42/56% for -14%
Johnson 21/35% for -14%
Trump 37/61% for -24%
Yeah, I personally despise Pence even more than Trump, even though I acknowledge that Pence wouldn't be a threat to the survival of western civilization, which Trump is.
How in the world does an utter dick like Pence get favorable ratings? That boggles my mind.
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Simfan34
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Re: POLITICO/Morning Consult - Clinton +3
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Quote from: President Johnson on November 06, 2016, 06:59:43 AM
Quote from: jaichind on November 06, 2016, 06:57:34 AM
Quote from: President Johnson on November 06, 2016, 06:56:22 AM
The Johnson/Stein numbers are way too high.
Yep. Net net should slightly benefit Trump in the final tactical voting analysis assuming it will end up being something like Johnson 4 Stein 2 but not enough to overcome a 3 point Clinton lead.
Yep. Though 1% for Stein is more realistic. Johnson at 4% looks about right.
Stein will be lucky to get over 1%, hopefully she won't get even half that.
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