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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2016, 03:29:02 pm »

I think MI is a possibility this year as more Republicans showed up for the MI primary than democrats.

this has never meant anything in the past.

everyone comes up with BS reasons why Michigan is competitive but the numbers show a picture that is worse than Trump then the last nominee who had obvious ties to the state.

Michigan isn't going to vote Republican after their Republican Governor poisoned the Flint drinking water.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2016, 03:31:46 pm »

Based on the internals in Michigan, I can see why Hillary would be worried.  This polling company pushed suburbans in the last poll, and this poll indicates that those same suburban voters are undecided.  I think there might be a group of undecided voters consisting of 5-7% of the electorate that is still undecided/leaning trump, and there is a lot riding on AfricanAmerican voters showing up in the urban areas.  
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2016, 03:43:38 pm »

I think MI is a possibility this year as more Republicans showed up for the MI primary than democrats.

Primary turnout has no correlation with general election result.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2016, 03:50:05 pm »

If Trump can really win the non-Detroit Wayne/Oakland/Macomb area as this poll suggests, it's hard to see him losing the state.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2016, 03:54:49 pm »

How soon people forget that Obama was +4 in the average (similar to Hillary) before 2012 and he won by almost 10... it is much more Trump being desperate than Clinton being worried.
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2016, 04:26:23 pm »

How soon people forget that Obama was +4 in the average (similar to Hillary) before 2012 and he won by almost 10... it is much more Trump being desperate than Clinton being worried.

Hillary != Obama
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2016, 05:02:45 pm »

Hillary gains in crappy MI poll = Everyone suddenly decides MI is a tossup. Huh?
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2016, 05:15:50 pm »

Official Primary results   March 8, 2016
49.7% Bernie Sanders
48.3% Hillary Clinton
2.1%   Others / Uncommitted

FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell
Margin of error: 4.5%

Sample size: 482
March 7, 2016   
61%   Hillary Clinton
34% Bernie Sanders
5%   Others / Uncommitted

FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell
Margin of error: 4.5%

Sample size: 475
March 6, 2016   
66%    Hillary Clinton
29% Bernie Sanders
5%   Others / Undecided   

P.S MI will be the shocker of the night on Tuesday.

Yes, but using the same logic, Clinton will beat her polls by twenty points and sweep the Deep South. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2016, 05:27:27 pm »

My God people stop being so... thick.
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2016, 05:30:08 pm »

This thread. Ugh.
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2016, 05:33:01 pm »

I don't think MI is possibility, but I think it's a lean Dem (3-5%).  I can see why Dems would be scared given the polls missed Bernie Sanders in the primary and Trump is likely to get a boost from his grass roots, in addition to some normally apathetic, white independents.
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2016, 05:46:27 pm »

In the good old days, a poll from a trash polling firm like this would have been largely ignored, sinking to the bottom of the page.  But now we are reduced to arguing over what is essentially useless garbage because Nate Silver destroyed the polling industry.  Sad!
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