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The Other Castro
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« on: October 31, 2016, 06:22:48 AM »

Clinton - 42%
Trump - 39%
Johnson - 7%
Stein - 5%

Clinton - 46%
Trump - 43%

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So, zero change in the 4-way and MOE movement in the 2-way, all in the immediate aftermath which is usually the most volatile period of a "scandal".

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-emails-comey-poll-politico-morning-consult-230519
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2016, 06:24:44 AM »

Stein and Johnson numbers are a little high
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 06:25:08 AM »

People have been hearing about these freaking emails for 2 years! Most understand that there's nothing there and are sick of it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 06:25:27 AM »



Interesting graphic.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2016, 06:25:29 AM »


Agreed.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2016, 06:26:09 AM »

#backfire

Reading the Blue Avatar posts in the FBI thread puts a smile on my face.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016, 06:26:50 AM »

Stein at 5%, wow.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016, 06:27:08 AM »

Then again they didn't show much of a shift after the tapes dropped either...
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2016, 06:29:37 AM »

#backfire

Reading the Blue Avatar posts in the FBI thread puts a smile on my face.

What's with the "backfire" thing? It's not like she's doing better because of this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2016, 06:30:14 AM »


Good defensive stand for Clinton.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2016, 06:30:46 AM »

So, zero change in the 4-way and MOE movement in the 2-way, all in the immediate aftermath which is usually the most volatile period of a "scandal".
Did you really expect movement > MOE? The summer FBI scandal changed polls by 2% Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2016, 06:31:05 AM »


True, trash. Only teasing Smiley

Then again they didn't show much of a shift after the tapes dropped either...

To be fair, this poll is renowned for it's very conservative response to things, so we'll see. But the 'meh' response to the emails are kind of reflected in the anecdotal info we've heard so far.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2016, 06:32:07 AM »

Then again they didn't show much of a shift after the tapes dropped either...

This poll seems to have an equilibrium of a 3-4 point Clinton lead. Also it's looking like in general, that Trump is regaining support amoung Republicans, even before the tape, while Hillary stays about the same.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 06:32:29 AM »

So, zero change in the 4-way and MOE movement in the 2-way, all in the immediate aftermath which is usually the most volatile period of a "scandal".
Did you really expect movement > MOE? The summer FBI scandal changed polls by 2% Smiley

Just mentioning it could be unrelated movement given a lack of change in the 4-way.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2016, 06:32:45 AM »

Yeah this poll seems to never move regardless of what happens.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2016, 06:35:33 AM »

Yeah this poll seems to never move regardless of what happens.

Yes, pretty stable it seems.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2016, 06:36:32 AM »

Yeah this poll seems to never move regardless of what happens.

Yes, pretty stable it seems.

Especially Hillary
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2016, 08:36:03 AM »

Dems
Clinton 81%
Stein 5%
Trump 5%
Johnson 4%

GOP
Trump 82%
Clinton 6%
Johnson 5%
Stein 3%

Indies
Clinton 33%
Trump 32%
Johnson 15%
Stein 8%

Trump’s in 4th place with blacks:
Clinton 82%
Johnson 6%
Stein 5%
Trump 4%

Once again, Johnson draws more from Trump while Stein draws more from Clinton…

People who support Clinton in the 2-way matchup:
Clinton 89%
Johnson 5%
Stein 5%
Trump 1%

People who support Trump in the 2-way matchup:
Trump 89%
Johnson 7%
Stein 2%
Clinton 1%

men: Clinton/Trump tie
women: Clinton +5
income under $50k: Clinton +4
income $50-100k: Clinton +1
income over $100k: Clinton +4
whites: Trump +9
blacks: Clinton +76 (over Johnson)
Hispanics: Clinton +22
urban: Clinton +27
suburban: Clinton +1
rural: Trump +15
Midwest: Trump +3
Northeast: Clinton +11
South: Trump +4
West: Clinton +14

Yet another poll in which Clinton does even better in the West than the Northeast.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2016, 08:38:33 AM »


Looks pretty accurate tbh, I remember Obama internal polls or model didnt show much movement through the whole campaign either
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2016, 08:40:40 AM »

It's only been two days (And a weekend no less!), so this has not had time to percolate in an average week's news coverage and she has already dropped two points. Given an average week of news coverage, Clinton is going to drop like a rock. I'm calling it now, tied by the end of this week or mid next week.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2016, 08:47:42 AM »

I love how 1% switch between Clinton and Trump based on whether it's a two-way or a four-way match.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2016, 08:54:20 AM »

men: Clinton/Trump tie
women: Clinton +5
income under $50k: Clinton +4
income $50-100k: Clinton +1
income over $100k: Clinton +4
whites: Trump +9
blacks: Clinton +76 (over Johnson)
Hispanics: Clinton +22
urban: Clinton +27
suburban: Clinton +1
rural: Trump +15
Midwest: Trump +3
Northeast: Clinton +11
South: Trump +4
West: Clinton +14

Hispanics +22 for Clinton definitely seems low.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2016, 09:00:42 AM »

men: Clinton/Trump tie
women: Clinton +5
income under $50k: Clinton +4
income $50-100k: Clinton +1
income over $100k: Clinton +4
whites: Trump +9
blacks: Clinton +76 (over Johnson)
Hispanics: Clinton +22
urban: Clinton +27
suburban: Clinton +1
rural: Trump +15
Midwest: Trump +3
Northeast: Clinton +11
South: Trump +4
West: Clinton +14

Hispanics +22 for Clinton definitely seems low.

Yeah, they only have Clinton getting 50% of Hispanics, compared to 28% for Trump.  The rest is taken up by Johnson/Stein/undecided.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2016, 09:02:04 AM »

men: Clinton/Trump tie
women: Clinton +5
income under $50k: Clinton +4
income $50-100k: Clinton +1
income over $100k: Clinton +4
whites: Trump +9
blacks: Clinton +76 (over Johnson)
Hispanics: Clinton +22
urban: Clinton +27
suburban: Clinton +1
rural: Trump +15
Midwest: Trump +3
Northeast: Clinton +11
South: Trump +4
West: Clinton +14

Hispanics +22 for Clinton definitely seems low.

Indeed but many of those numbers have it narrower than we're used to - men, women, whites etc.
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2016, 09:13:00 AM »

Johnson+Stein combined %age of the vote by region:
Midwest: 14%
Northeast: 9%
South: 10%
West: 18%

Without the 3rd party vote included, the regional differences become bigger.  E.g., in the South Trump leads by 4 in the 4-way and by 6 in the 2-way.  In the West, Clinton leads by 14 in the 4-way and 19 in the 2-way.
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