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Question: Who wins?
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Hillary by landslide
 
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Hillary comfortably
 
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Hillary narrowly
 
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Romney narrowly
 
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Romney comfortably
 
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Romney by landslide
 
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« on: October 24, 2016, 12:55:52 AM »

Well?
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2016, 01:30:05 AM »
« Edited: October 29, 2016, 04:58:18 PM by Moderate Hero »

Romney +15 or +16
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 07:45:15 AM »

Romney by 72-100 electoral votes and probably a 50-46 win.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 08:11:44 AM »


National PV: Lean R, Romney 50-48-2
Electoral College: Lean R, Romney 279-259
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2016, 10:42:37 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2016, 07:00:38 PM by hurricanehink »

Given that the rise of the alt-right wing of the GOP has been building since 2010, I have to believe that Romney might have a 3rd party more conservative challenger. Also, Democratic enthusiasm could be higher, as Hillary is the sort of challenger to defeat a sitting president by virtue of her experience and historic candidacy. I think it would be a very close race, with a Cruz-type republican taking enough support away from Romney to keep it a tossup til the very end.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 12:04:16 PM »



Effectively a safe R election; Hillary would have to thread the needle and win every toss-up just to reach 270.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 03:56:03 PM »

It would be a toss-up election like 1968 or 2000

Romney by 72-100 electoral votes and probably a 50-46 win.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2016, 05:04:01 PM »


322: President Mitt Romney/Vice President Paul Ryan - 52.0%
216: Former SoS Hillary Clinton/Senator Ron Wyden - 45.0%
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2016, 11:30:02 AM »


322: President Mitt Romney/Vice President Paul Ryan - 52.0%
216: Former SoS Hillary Clinton/Senator Ron Wyden - 45.0%

Roughly this. Maybe flip ME-02. Pennsylvania might flip as well, but yeah roughly this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2016, 01:39:08 PM »

Given that the rise of the alt-right wing of the GOP has been building since 2010, I have to believe that Romney might have a 3rd party more conservative challenger. Also, Democratic enthusiasm could be higher, as Hillary is the sort of challenger to defeat a sitting president by virtue of her experience, historic candidacy, and experience. I think it would be a very close race, with a Cruz-type republican taking enough support away from Romney to keep it a tossup til the very end.

No need to repeat yourself.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2016, 07:01:38 PM »

Given that the rise of the alt-right wing of the GOP has been building since 2010, I have to believe that Romney might have a 3rd party more conservative challenger. Also, Democratic enthusiasm could be higher, as Hillary is the sort of challenger to defeat a sitting president by virtue of her experience, historic candidacy, and experience. I think it would be a very close race, with a Cruz-type republican taking enough support away from Romney to keep it a tossup til the very end.

No need to repeat yourself.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2016, 06:06:30 PM »

I'd think that it would be a narrow victory for Romney.

I predict that President Romney would've gotten around 270-300 Electoral Votes, and won the popular vote by less then 2%.


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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2021, 06:59:26 PM »

It could be a close election or a landslide race. I'd say the most likely map is this...



✓ President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI): 327 EV. (51.32%)
Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT): 211 EV. (46.07%)
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2021, 09:36:33 PM »

If Obama loses in 2012, I don't think Hillary runs in 2016. I doubt she wanted to run against an incumbent Romney, so she'd probably wait until 2020.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2021, 02:05:16 PM »

Best case for Romney:



Worst case for Romney:



I think something closer to the Best case for Romney, give or take a few states with a narrow Romney PV win by 1.5-2.5% is the likeliest scenario, thus Romney wins.

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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2021, 04:04:37 PM »

Romney cant win.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2021, 01:15:12 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2021, 06:22:05 PM »

Given that the rise of the alt-right wing of the GOP has been building since 2010, I have to believe that Romney might have a 3rd party more conservative challenger. Also, Democratic enthusiasm could be higher, as Hillary is the sort of challenger to defeat a sitting president by virtue of her experience and historic candidacy. I think it would be a very close race, with a Cruz-type republican taking enough support away from Romney to keep it a tossup til the very end.
LOL Cruz is nowhere near alt-right
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2021, 10:16:12 PM »



I don't think Romney would win Minnesota and even Michigan is pushing it, but other than that this is a conceivable or even likely map.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2021, 10:23:07 PM »



I don't think Romney would win Minnesota and even Michigan is pushing it, but other than that this is a conceivable or even likely map.


I think it depends on if the email scandal plays out in a similar way or not
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2021, 10:34:39 PM »



I don't think Romney would win Minnesota and even Michigan is pushing it, but other than that this is a conceivable or even likely map.


I think it depends on if the email scandal plays out in a similar way or not

Possibly. I'd still replace MN and MI with NM.
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2021, 10:47:17 PM »



I don't think Romney would win Minnesota and even Michigan is pushing it, but other than that this is a conceivable or even likely map.


I think it depends on if the email scandal plays out in a similar way or not

Possibly. I'd still replace MN and MI with NM.

Even New Mexico is stretching it. Bush was a good fit for the state, thus why he won it in 2004 and kept it very close in 2000, and while Trump kept it close in 2016 he got beat the  out there in 2020. Romney was definitely a worse fit for NM than Bush and was arguably a worse fit than Trump, so I don't see him winning it, even in the best circumstances.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2021, 10:48:13 PM »



I don't think Romney would win Minnesota and even Michigan is pushing it, but other than that this is a conceivable or even likely map.


I think it depends on if the email scandal plays out in a similar way or not

Possibly. I'd still replace MN and MI with NM.

Even New Mexico is stretching it. Bush was a good fit for the state, thus why he won it in 2004 and kept it very close in 2000, and while Trump kept it close in 2016 he got beat the  out there in 2020. Romney was definitely a worse fit for NM than Bush and was arguably a worse fit than Trump, so I don't see him winning it, even in the best circumstances.

Maybe. I feel like Clinton would've ignored this one, leaving Romney an opening.
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2021, 12:43:38 AM »


President Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) ✓

Can't see Romney maintaining enthusiasm with the Tea Party growing and an uncomplacent Clinton doing more to drum up support. There would also have been lots of potential for foreign policy mishaps in Syria, Iran, and Ukraine.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2021, 10:54:38 AM »

LOL, OSR is such a Romney fanboy. No Romney would not win by 15 or 16 points, this isn't 1984 and he's not Reagan. Such landslides are impossible for anyone now, let alone a Republican (and such an uninspiring one to most at that) in our polarized, D-leaning electorate. If he won at all, it would be narrow. He probably would not win D-leaning states like Minnesota, Colorado, Virginia, Nevada, or New Hampshire (another OSR fixation). And the other swing states are debatable at best.
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