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« Reply #125 on: October 16, 2016, 12:10:06 PM »

Not to be hyper-technical, but the margin of error applies to the values of each given choice, not the percentage margin.  That is, the finding is Clinton at 47% +/- 4%, and Trump at 43% +/- 4%.  It's not a 4% lead +/- 4%; the MoE is bigger than that.  This poll is, in fact, within MoE.
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« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2016, 12:28:22 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
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« Reply #127 on: October 16, 2016, 12:29:26 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.
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« Reply #128 on: October 16, 2016, 12:33:48 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

Especially if your parents basement is in Moscow.
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« Reply #129 on: October 16, 2016, 12:38:52 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

Especially if your parents basement is in Moscow.

Please, young Russians know English much better than this chap.
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« Reply #130 on: October 16, 2016, 12:42:42 PM »

So we have two polls conducted in the same time span that show Clinton +4 and +11. Averaging them gets us to +7.5, which is about where she stood right before the debate. So this would suggest that the race has remained stable.
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« Reply #131 on: October 16, 2016, 12:58:05 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
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« Reply #132 on: October 16, 2016, 12:59:09 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.
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« Reply #133 on: October 16, 2016, 12:59:33 PM »

If we change nothing at all for the non-white groups from 2012 (optimistic for Trump to say the least; the +24 among Hispanics in this poll for Clinton is obviously a downward statistical fluctuation), and match the margins for college and non-college whites in this poll, you would need to increase non-college white turnout by 30% in order to match the topline numbers (and/or decrease college white turnout accordingly).  There's no real evidence that that's happening.

On the flip side, if you increase Clinton's two-way support among Hispanics to 80% (in line with other polling) and don't futz with turnout in each demographic, this would correspond to a 10.5% win for Clinton (2012+NC+GA+AZ+NE-2), according to the 538 demographic calculator.

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« Reply #134 on: October 16, 2016, 04:08:24 PM »

Trump just tweeted that he hrc is down 11 points with women voters in the poll
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« Reply #135 on: October 16, 2016, 04:12:51 PM »

Trump just tweeted that he hrc is down 11 points with women voters in the poll

No, he's down 8 with women.
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« Reply #136 on: October 16, 2016, 04:17:19 PM »

Trump just tweeted that he hrc is down 11 points with women voters in the poll

No, he's down 8 with women.

yup

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787760670590791680

It's scary that a guy who plays fast and loose with the truth and basic verifiable facts could become president
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« Reply #137 on: October 16, 2016, 04:18:07 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2016, 04:21:26 PM by iBizzBee »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.

It's times like these I think there should be a basic intelligence test before voting. If you can't spell 'election'; maybe you shouldn't be allowed to 'votinf' one.
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« Reply #138 on: October 16, 2016, 04:21:22 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!
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« Reply #139 on: October 16, 2016, 04:22:43 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Young 21-year old urban professional checking in; I'm voting for Hillary. So are most of my friends. #AnecdotalEvidence
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« Reply #140 on: October 16, 2016, 04:23:50 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Are you by any chance related to that guy?

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« Reply #141 on: October 16, 2016, 06:12:28 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Young 21-year old urban professional checking in; I'm voting for Hillary. So are most of my friends. #AnecdotalEvidence

You are from Oregon.. Portland i'm assuming aka liberal weed smoker life. Trump is the lesser of two evils.
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« Reply #142 on: October 16, 2016, 06:16:40 PM »

Most of the young people I know are either bernie or busters or are for Clinton. Very few of the Bernie or Busters are landing on Trump (the count exactly is one), most are landing on not voting.

Driving around this city, I have found few Trump signs, being outnumbered by Clinton signs. There are some Johnson signs, almost equal to the amount of Trump signs. I acknowledge Trump probably wins this state, but the enthusiasm is very small compared to 2012 when Romney completely DOMINATED Obama in terms of signage.

That may just be Tulsa trending Democrat though, as it has been.
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« Reply #143 on: October 16, 2016, 07:00:18 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Young 21-year old urban professional checking in; I'm voting for Hillary. So are most of my friends. #AnecdotalEvidence

You are from Oregon.. Portland i'm assuming aka liberal weed smoker life. Trump is the lesser of two evils.

Southern Oregon actually; and while I'm in favor of pot being decriminalized, I actually don't smoke it. Thanks for making sweeping generalizations though. Face it, the silent majority is with #MadamePresident!
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« Reply #144 on: October 16, 2016, 07:05:35 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Young 21-year old urban professional checking in; I'm voting for Hillary. So are most of my friends. #AnecdotalEvidence

You are from Oregon.. Portland i'm assuming aka liberal weed smoker life. Trump is the lesser of two evils.

Southern Oregon actually; and while I'm in favor of pot being decriminalized, I actually don't smoke it. Thanks for making sweeping generalizations though. Face it, the silent majority is with #MadamePresident!

The same generalizations that i live in a basement when that's laughable Smiley.  Are you gay as well?
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« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2016, 08:21:32 PM »

Hope this is a change for trump doing well hillary i s a crook and a mess i'm glad this is my first ele tion and votinf trump nobody young i know likes her.
Hard to get to know Clinton supporters when you never leave your parent's basement.

i'm 23, i'm sure u say this since hillary said this about bernie supporters, i work on wall st in manhattan Smiley more successful than you at the gas station
Well it's easy to get a job scrubbing toilets on the trading floor.

I can see you are bitter young people don't like the crook we are making her lose, i cannot wait!

Young 21-year old urban professional checking in; I'm voting for Hillary. So are most of my friends. #AnecdotalEvidence

You are from Oregon.. Portland i'm assuming aka liberal weed smoker life. Trump is the lesser of two evils.

Southern Oregon actually; and while I'm in favor of pot being decriminalized, I actually don't smoke it. Thanks for making sweeping generalizations though. Face it, the silent majority is with #MadamePresident!

The same generalizations that i live in a basement when that's laughable Smiley.  Are you gay as well?

That I made? Not last time I checked; and attempting to bring sexuality into a discussion about polls? So what if I was? Irrelevant and also quite classy of you, keep throwing things against the wall until something sticks, eh? You've learned quite well from your supreme leader.

I'll see you November 8th; until then this is pointless. Wink
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« Reply #146 on: October 16, 2016, 09:15:02 PM »

I'm asking because i am as well. I am voting for trump because of the supreme court... i. An careless if hillary wins it's not like anything she wants will get through congress. The republicans will win in 2020
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« Reply #147 on: October 16, 2016, 09:19:25 PM »

I'm asking because i am as well. I am voting for trump because of the supreme court... i. An careless if hillary wins it's not like anything she wants will get through congress. The republicans will win in 2020

Good for you! #YoungGayDivasWithMoneyForTRUMP High Five, boo!
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« Reply #148 on: October 16, 2016, 09:48:36 PM »

I'm asking because i am as well. I am voting for trump because of the supreme court... i. An careless if hillary wins it's not like anything she wants will get through congress. The republicans will win in 2020

Good for you! #YoungGayDivasWithMoneyForTRUMP High Five, boo!
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« Reply #149 on: October 16, 2016, 10:04:06 PM »

I'm asking because i am as well. I am voting for trump because of the supreme court... i. An careless if hillary wins it's not like anything she wants will get through congress. The republicans will win in 2020

If you want to vote for a man whom has every intention of choosing a supreme court whom will overturn marriage equality and whom has chosen a running mate whom openly supported laws that allowed businesses to discriminate against gay people then go ahead; self hate is a very sad thing, and I for one enjoy having my civil rights protected.
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