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« on: September 21, 2016, 09:41:58 AM »

41-41 with 4% for the libertarian

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NC_92116.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 09:45:22 AM »

Ironically, I think Pat McCrory is clearly doing more damage to the GOP in NC than Trump is, but I'm sure the usual suspects will be quick to deny.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 09:47:54 AM »

This race will be very close. I still think Burr narrowly wins this, but I'm really nervous about this race.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 09:52:36 AM »

Burr underperforming Trump is extremely troubling for him.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 09:56:17 AM »

From now on we only run random ladies from the state senate in NC Senate races.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 10:00:49 AM »

Q11 Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Richard Burr’s job performance? 
34% Approve ..........................................................
34% Disapprove ......................................................
32% Not sure ..........................................................

Q12 Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Deborah Ross? 
27% Favorable ........................................................
25% Unfavorable ....................................................
49% Not sure ..........................................................

Q13 The candidates for US Senate are Democrat Deborah Ross, Republican Richard Burr, and Libertarian Sean Haugh. If the election were today, who would you vote for?
41% Deborah Ross .................................................
41% Richard Burr .................................................... 
4% Sean Haugh ....................................................
15% Undecided .......................................................
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 10:09:06 AM »

From now on we only run random ladies from the state senate in NC Senate races.

She's a State Rep, not even a State Senator.

Anyway, great news!
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »

Burr underperforming Trump is extremely troubling for him.

Yeah. If Hillary can gain back a couple points in NC (and hopefully nationwide), then our chances here don't look bad.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM »

Ironically, I think Pat McCrory is clearly doing more damage to the GOP in NC than Trump is, but I'm sure the usual suspects will be quick to deny.
While you're indeed right, I think it will Burr's fault too as well, he doesn't seem to take his bid seriously.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2016, 10:49:25 AM »

Remember when this forum considered Burr safe? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 11:06:21 AM »

I think that Ross was the most underestimated candidate this cycle. I (like many) thought she was pretty much just a sacrificial lamb at first.

Hagan, Cowell, and Shuler are probably regretting not running. Burr had some strong polling early on that likely scared them away, but now he's clearly no juggernaut.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 11:06:21 AM »

Kind of weird to see Trump up but Burr tied, but I digress. Burr and Ross both seem pretty unknown, so I still see nothing suggesting this won't come down essentially as Generic R versus Generic D. Recent evidence suggests Generic R should still be favored, but that's clearly going to switch at some point in the near future, and 2016 might well be the year.

McCrory is doomed and the Elon poll was an outlier, but that was already obvious.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 11:11:50 AM »

I'm glad Clinton is still competitive in NC. If NC and VA is gone then it keeps Trump on defense like Romney
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2016, 12:05:53 PM »

My only worry is about Ross peeking too early, if that doesn't happen we may well pick up this seat.  Egg on my face for saying AZ would be far more competitive, btw.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 01:58:05 PM »

Ross has much room to grow considering the 49% unsure on favorability number. Beautiful poll!
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 07:33:37 PM »

This is NC, so Burr was never going to be safe.

Last year you were claiming that NC is a "very Republican state."
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2016, 07:39:27 PM »

This is NC, so Burr was never going to be safe.

Last year you were claiming that NC is a "very Republican state."

Link?

Can't find it. I don't really care though; it's OK to change your mind.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2016, 08:05:53 PM »

Ironically, I think Pat McCrory is clearly doing more damage to the GOP in NC than Trump is, but I'm sure the usual suspects will be quick to deny.

I won't deny that - there's a lot of military people in North Carolina that might like Trump's whole tough talk and expansion of the military while sort of liking gay and trans people and a government that works (Trump's pragmatism on infrastructure and women's health, for example), which McCrory and the legislature has been opposed to from the start.

Anyways here's to hoping that Cooper does well enough to carry Ross with him.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2016, 10:31:05 AM »

Ironically, I think Pat McCrory is clearly doing more damage to the GOP in NC than Trump is, but I'm sure the usual suspects will be quick to deny.

I won't deny that - there's a lot of military people in North Carolina that might like Trump's whole tough talk and expansion of the military while sort of liking gay and trans people and a government that works (Trump's pragmatism on infrastructure and women's health, for example), which McCrory and the legislature has been opposed to from the start.

Anyways here's to hoping that Cooper does well enough to carry Ross with him.

Considering where McCrory was in 2008 and even to some extent, in 2012, that is the ultimate of ironies.

But the statement is undeniable, while Trump has problems the NC GOP has undoubtedly been crippled.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2016, 04:03:24 PM »

I think that Ross was the most underestimated candidate this cycle. I (like many) thought she was pretty much just a sacrificial lamb at first.

Hagan, Cowell, and Shuler are probably regretting not running. Burr had some strong polling early on that likely scared them away, but now he's clearly no juggernaut.

Cowell and Shuler maybe...but idk about Hagan, given how campaigning to breaking point with practically everyone of big name publicly endorsing her and still losing [None to different from the Presidential Race right now, which is why I'm skeptical of Hillary winning now]

But wasn't Ross ahead last poll?
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 04:21:59 PM »

I think that Ross was the most underestimated candidate this cycle. I (like many) thought she was pretty much just a sacrificial lamb at first.

Hagan, Cowell, and Shuler are probably regretting not running. Burr had some strong polling early on that likely scared them away, but now he's clearly no juggernaut.

Cowell and Shuler maybe...but idk about Hagan, given how campaigning to breaking point with practically everyone of big name publicly endorsing her and still losing [None to different from the Presidential Race right now, which is why I'm skeptical of Hillary winning now]

But wasn't Ross ahead last poll?

I also think had a bigger name run Burr would have taken this race seriously earlier rather than let Ross sneak up on him
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