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NOVA Green
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« on: September 21, 2016, 05:03:40 PM »

Wow!!!!

So many polls today and such dramatically different results and trending.

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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 05:07:20 PM »


LOL

But yeah, good news for Trump, especially in NC.

No question that this a really good poll dump for Trump.

Seems to reinforce the narrative that we are seeing that LV models are all over the map this year....
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 05:35:55 PM »

So strange how this election is turning out. We all thought Clinton will have trouble in PA. Instead it is looking safe. We all thought she will lock up NV, now that looks like a Trump state. NC looks to go Dem before OH does. Who would have thought that a few months ago.

So true.... take the CW from the past two elections with Obama at the top of the ticket, throw in two extremely unpopular nominees from the major parties, add a wild card of a Libertarian grabbing Millennials (and others) from both candidates throughout the country, and we do have one wild election and swings in the EC map and polling this late in the year.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 06:58:54 PM »

Didn't state polls lag the national polls when trump had his recovery post-DNC? That's how I remember it, and I hope that's the case here.

They also lagged a bit after the DNC after Hillary jumped up to 8-15 points nationally.

As I have posted elsewhere national polls are leading indicators, and state polls are lagging indicators.

We need another legit national poll, combined with solid statewide polls over the next week to see if this is in fact the case.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 07:22:14 PM »

Disgusting and sad. F-ck your country, Americans.

I agree. I'll consider moving to your country to continue to have clean water, air and food standards. If America is dumb enough to vote for the 19th century...Well, bye.

I'm against trump by all means, but let's not pretend canada is an environmental paradise...





Reminds me of an old classic Canadian anthem "Oh Canaduh" from the early '80s from a band based out of BC right down the road from the major cities of the West Coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixxcj2RsGo0&list=PLwaWPBdommvcFW3cTkx4lVHKpJiljLfej&index=2

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 07:29:30 PM »

Disgusting and sad. F-ck your country, Americans.

I agree. I'll consider moving to your country to continue to have clean water, air and food standards. If America is dumb enough to vote for the 19th century...Well, bye.

Why would you move from Oregon to Canada based upon overall environmental concerns???

Now, I would love to have a job in BC (Vancouver or Victoria), but not so sure that Canada is better on issues like forest management, air quality, fisheries, than the Pacific Northwest. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 08:57:09 PM »


Reminds me of an old classic Canadian anthem "Oh Canaduh" from the early '80s from a band based out of BC right down the road from the major cities of the West Coast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixxcj2RsGo0&list=PLwaWPBdommvcFW3cTkx4lVHKpJiljLfej&index=2

Nice, I can dig that. In turn, reminds me of a good one from closer to my neck of the woods, "O Pennsyltucky" by Mischief Brew...this is a little slower and less angry, haha, but still punk in it's own way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXSfZ4Op1QU

Nice.... also seems to indicate part of the reason why Trump is losing hard in PA. Wink

Now, back to the thread at hand, I do believe that Clinton might well lose NV at the hands of "Angry SoCal Retirees".

For all of the assumptions and statements that some Red Avatars and Hillary backers make regarding the "Latino % of the electorate", and "PVI from 2008 and 2012", and "angry white suburban women", the reality is that Nevada is a state with an extremely large % of Anglo retirees, a ton of Middle-Class Vegas residents that saw their housing values collapse, Millennials that had a hard time getting their first job until a year or so back, and really is not a state where the "Clinton Brand" is gold standard.

Ohio is well a state that Trump might win (Although I think it's closer to Trump +3 at this point), The internal Ohio Union poll from yesterday showing Clinton only up 10% is a HUGE red flag.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 09:22:18 PM »

Not surprising in the NC poll. What's going on tonight should probably help Trump. Democrats and far-far-leftist agitators have coddled these violent protesters for too long. This does not look good with swing suburbanite white voters in NC.

What's going on tonight?

Last I saw you had maybe 300 demonstrators at a protest, a few people tossed bottles at the police, and the entire areas was covered with tear gas and the demonstration dispersed.

Did you miss another night Bronze4141 and are mistaking yesterday for today? Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 09:39:41 PM »

News is still confusing regarding a protester being killed, versus someone shot dead at the hands of the cops elsewhere in the city.

Haven't seen a full source on this yet....
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