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Erich Maria Remarque
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2016, 08:40:18 AM »

So I don't really understand, why you think that it is a good poll for Hillary?

538's polling average (weighted, but not adjusted): Hillary +9
538's polling average (weighted and adjusted for trendsline etc): Hillary +7

This poll has Hillary +6. It seems to have D house effect (538 add 3% to their latest polls).

Yes, it was taken during Trump's [temporary?] peak, but it is still not bad for Trump Smiley

Self-reassurance.

"All is well! All is well! Nothing to see here!" they say as the building rages in flames...
Lol, what. I'm saying that this particular poll looks good for Trump compared to the race right now. PA-polls is not.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2016, 08:40:25 AM »

So I don't really understand, why you think that it is a good poll for Hillary?

538's polling average (weighted, but not adjusted): Hillary +9
538's polling average (weighted and adjusted for trendsline etc): Hillary +7

This poll has Hillary +6. It seems to have D house effect (538 add 3% to their latest polls).

Yes, it was taken during Trump's [temporary?] peak, but it is still not bad for Trump Smiley

Self-reassurance.

"All is well! All is well! Nothing to see here!" they say as the building rages in flames...
So being up by the same margin as Obama in 2012 during a bad patch is bad.  Damn the trump must be messing with Republicans minds.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2016, 08:42:17 AM »

Did people seriously believe MN could be won by Trump?
lol lol
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2016, 09:56:48 AM »

Did people seriously believe MN could be won by Trump?
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2016, 10:46:05 AM »

What Joe said is correct but the Star Tribune has NOT endorsed Trump. That article isn't an endorsement from the editorial board nor is it even a full throated endorsement of Trump. Show some reading comprehension Tender.

And I'd be surprised if they do endorse Trump since the editorial board and staff hasn't changed. The guy who bought it doesn't care too much about partisan politics anymore anyway and is just some rich guy who likes to own things. I used to work for one of his companies in college actually.

Results are a bit weaker than I expected but if taken during Hillary's low point that explains it.
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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2016, 11:03:35 AM »
« Edited: September 18, 2016, 11:06:09 AM by StatesPoll »

here red avatars are trying to underestimate this Poll.
But!
Liberal's hero 'Nate Silver' adjusted this Minnesota Poll as Hillary +3%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/minnesota/#plus
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2016, 12:05:33 PM »

here red avatars are trying to underestimate this Poll.
But!
Liberal's hero 'Nate Silver' adjusted this Minnesota Poll as Hillary +3%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/minnesota/#plus
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You really need to stop posting pictures with every single post you make, it's annoying. No one needs to see that ugly turd.
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2016, 01:29:39 PM »

here red avatars are trying to underestimate this Poll.
But!
Liberal's hero 'Nate Silver' adjusted this Minnesota Poll as Hillary +3%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/minnesota/#plus
wOw!





You really need to stop posting pictures with every single post you make, it's annoying. No one needs to see that ugly turd.

Trump on looking presidential: 'How handsome am I?' - CNNPolitics.com  Apr 25, 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/25/politics/donald-trump-how-handsome-am-i/

Trump's Explanation For His Popularity 'I'm Very Handsome' - YouTube Oct 10, 2015
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Donald Trump - People think I enjoy firing people. I don't   Feb 7, 2014
 Well, I am a very handsome man (smiles),

well! Liberals always praise Micheal Obama is beautiful (say frankly I disagree. but I respect those opinions)

you shouldn't call TRUMP's apearance like that!
 

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2016, 02:33:17 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2016, 02:36:43 PM by Snowguy716 »

This poll over represents 35-49 year olds at the expense of both 18-34 year olds (208 to 87) and 50-64 year olds who are slightly under estimated because that population is actually substantially larger because of the baby boom/bust.

The sample is
18-34: 87
35-49: 208
50-64: 203
65+:    125

I understand Millennials have lower turnout than Xers but the 18-34 group is much more populous.  First it is 2 years longer (17 year span vs 15) and nearly every individual age year is bigger in the former.  By far the biggest age cohorts in the 35-49 group are 35-36 year olds who are probably the most Clinton friendly in that age group.  I just dont see millennials voting in absolute numbers at only 40% as much as Xers in this election when they outnumber them by a lot.  

In the end this would mean slightly higher support for Clinton and significantly lower support for Trump whom only 24% of 18-34 year olds support.  Johnson and Stein would see boosts as well.

MN is safe for Hillary at this point.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2016, 07:46:47 AM »

Young people don't answer polls; I'd imagine their numbers would've been weighted up.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2016, 09:53:23 AM »

Minnesota won't be that close, but even so, Democrats have a very high floor in the state. Even though I don't think the margin will be anywhere near states like California or Maryland, I have confidence that MN is Safe D.

Minnesota is one of the least elastic states in the Union. It's about 49R in an R blowout election (weakest win for Nixon in 1972 and only state that Reagan lost in 1984), and not all that remarkable for Obama in 2008 when he was blowing out about every state that leaned D for Gore or Kerry. Not that I see the Democrats winning anything close to a 49-state blowout for a long time, I could imagine it going 59D when the Democrats win 62-36.

Safer D than the margin suggest -- that's Minnesota for you. 
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