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Erich Maria Remarque
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« on: September 15, 2016, 05:10:41 PM »

Clinton +1 in the 4 way, so of course, no clarity at all!

Odd she's doing better here than head to head, typically 4-way cuts about two points off her margin
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2016, 05:12:56 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/15/fox-news-poll-clinton-and-trump-in-one-point-race-among-likely-voters.html




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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2016, 05:23:05 PM »

For unskwers Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2016, 05:44:55 PM »

Er, no. That's total horsesh**t. Trump has not consolidated the Republican base by any means; he's still polling in the 60s among self-described conservatives. Hillary is at 75-80 with self-described liberals. The swings in this race -- all the swings in this race -- have been between Hillary Clinton and undecided/third-party. Trump has never really been higher than 41% or so, and in fact is usually under 40. Some of the people voting third-party are in fact Stein-voting progressives, but the majority of Johnson voters and undecideds are vague centrists without much of an ideology at all who can't stand Trump but are uncertain of whether they can bring themselves to vote for Hillary. Many are likely to end up not voting at all.

No. In the most polls Trump has gained, and Hillary has declined/stayed steady. But it is true that he can't crack 42% nationally.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2016, 06:08:39 PM »

BTW, there are a good news for Red Hacks Smiley

Comparison to    AUG. 28-30 RV:
4-way
Clinton +0%
Trump  -2%

2-way:
Clinton +2%
Trump  +1%
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2016, 06:51:26 AM »

Lord, I'm agreeing with Vosem.

This week has hurt Clinton with Dem enthusiasm. We need to wait, given the circumstances, if this this is a circumstantial hit, which will right itself, or a substantive hit, which suggests a new dynamic.

Hillary is, yes, being hurt by her weaker position with Millennials, BUT her position was being bolstered by her standing with moderate college-educated whites.  Her path to the White House isn't going to be done solely by pandering the most Progressive, because moderates are the key to the White House.
I suppose you are referring to her pneumonia/deplorable events?

If it is what you meant, it is not completely true, we saw it BEFORE those events in at least three latest A  top-10 pollsters (before the events), namely:
ABC/WaPo, from    SEP. 5-8
CNN, from    SEP. 1-4
and IBD/TIPP from    AUG. 26-SEP. 1

A lot of Dems/Reps seem to think that state polls prove that the the shift in the race occurred almost solely during this week. It is not true, we didn't have many good states polls last 3-4 weeks, and they just happened to come this week. So they includes both this and former weeks shifts.
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