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« on: September 14, 2016, 04:23:05 AM »
« edited: September 14, 2016, 04:24:49 AM by jaichind »

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-14/ohio-poll

Trump 48 Clinton 43

Trump 43 Clinton 38 Johnston 10 Stein 3
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 04:24:10 AM »

Beam me up scotty...I am surrounded by fascist.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 04:25:20 AM »

This lead vastly exceeds any lead Romney had in any poll in 2012 for OH after the Conventions.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 04:27:54 AM »

Wut??
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 04:49:29 AM »

It should technically be Trump 44, Clinton 39, Johnson 10, Stein 3, Undecided 4 on the 4-way, when you include leaners. The margin is the same.

With that said, this sample is heavily older, whiter and Republican than the state was in 2012. It's also a little more male (50/50 vs. 48/52). I'll take it though.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 04:57:07 AM »

Bull****
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 05:01:34 AM »

It is f**king Selzer! Third best pollster according to 538.


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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 05:05:05 AM »


If I see anything that supports this, fine. Until then, it's an outlier.

I don't care who does the poll, if it skews HARD against the conventional wisdom I'll await further information.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 05:07:21 AM »
« Edited: September 14, 2016, 05:11:33 AM by LittleBigOctopus »



Favorables:
Clinton 40/57
Trump  45/52

Obama 46/51
Kasich  59/35
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 05:09:36 AM »


If I see anything that supports this, fine. Until then, it's an outlier.

I don't care who does the poll, if it skews HARD against the conventional wisdom I'll await further information.
Have you missed another A pollster QU? They founded Trump +4. And yes — deplorables/pneumania Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 05:11:21 AM »

Huh - when?

But yes, I think she will take a hit in the next round of polls.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 05:12:09 AM »

Clinton doesn't need Ohio, Iowa and Florida.
She has to win the Kerry states 2004 + Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia,
then she ends with 273 EV.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 05:17:29 AM »

Clinton doesn't need Ohio, Iowa and Florida.
She has to win the Kerry states 2004 + Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia,
then she ends with 273 EV.

Stop pretending like Ohio is in vacuum. If Trump's gained here 3-4%, he's probably gained 2-3% in many other states as well, in Wisconsin for instance.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 05:19:15 AM »

Pretty much Trump is the most stupid, rude and hitler like president to ever run for our presidency. Yet, the people may elect him? lol

And you believe this is good for anyone besides maybe the top 1% of our society?
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 05:19:33 AM »

Clinton doesn't need Ohio, Iowa and Florida.
She has to win the Kerry states 2004 + Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia,
then she ends with 273 EV.

Stop pretending like Ohio is in vacuum. If Trump's gained here 3-4%, he's probably gained 2-3% in many other states as well, in Wisconsin for instance.

Wisconsin is out of reach for him as is Pennsylvania. And if doesn't win Florida, he's done.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 05:30:56 AM »





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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 05:35:43 AM »

Clinton doesn't need Ohio, Iowa and Florida.
She has to win the Kerry states 2004 + Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia,
then she ends with 273 EV.

Stop pretending like Ohio is in vacuum. If Trump's gained here 3-4%, he's probably gained 2-3% in many other states as well, in Wisconsin for instance.

I don't, of course states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Maine will become more and
more critical for Clinton if Trump leads nationally by 3 (LA) and in Ohio by 5 (Bloomberg).
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 05:37:16 AM »

I'm expecting this next week or so to be pretty ugly for Clinton in the polls.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2016, 05:43:21 AM »

Clinton doesn't need Ohio, Iowa and Florida.
She has to win the Kerry states 2004 + Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia,
then she ends with 273 EV.

Stop pretending like Ohio is in vacuum. If Trump's gained here 3-4%, he's probably gained 2-3% in many other states as well, in Wisconsin for instance.

Wisconsin is out of reach for him as is Pennsylvania. And if doesn't win Florida, he's done.
They were out of reach when Clinton lead by 3-5. If the race is a tie (recent polls might indicate it), so are WI and PA Wink
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2016, 05:44:22 AM »

I don't buy this lead unless PPP polls it. And she is doing well in VA.  This is very similar to the Quinnipiac poll.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2016, 05:48:19 AM »

I don't buy this lead unless PPP polls it. And she is doing well in VA.  This is very similar to the Quinnipiac poll.
I see, Dems've got a new favorite pollster. It was Marist until last week Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2016, 05:59:24 AM »

Ok, love the 43R to 36D breakdown in party id numbers in the poll.  Really makes it seem valid.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2016, 06:00:36 AM »

We'll see.
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2016, 06:01:53 AM »

Ok, love the 43R to 36D breakdown in party id numbers in the poll.  Really makes it seem valid.
This junk is needed to be unskewed!
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2016, 06:03:33 AM »

Ok, love the 43R to 36D breakdown in party id numbers in the poll.  Really makes it seem valid.
This junk is needed to be unskewed!
No unskewing, just a critique on the poll.
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