1964: (D)Johnson/Humphrey vs. (R)Rockefeller/Romney vs. (I)Goldwater/Wallace
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« on: September 12, 2016, 07:46:58 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2016, 07:53:29 PM »


292: Nelson Rockefeller/George Romney - 39.1%
180: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey - 34.2%
66: Barry Goldwater/George Wallace - 25.5%
Others - 1.2%

I'm not sure about California, and without it, the election goes to the House.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2016, 09:19:02 PM »


353: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey - 44.6%
292: Nelson Rockefeller/George Romney - 34.2%
66: Barry Goldwater/George Wallace - 20.4%
Others - 0.8%
Goldwater plays spoiler in the West, but LBJ probably would have won no matter who ran against him. His approval ratings were far beyond 50% at the time, and he would laugh as the GOP splinters into annoying semi-racist Republicans and annoying semi-liberal ones.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2016, 12:18:03 AM »



LBJ/HHH: 325 EV, 51% pv
Rockefeller/Romney: 110 EV, 39% pv
Goldwater/Wallace: 103 EV, 10% pv
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2016, 07:42:10 AM »

Goldwater would have never been on a ticket with Wallace.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2016, 07:49:47 AM »

Goldwater would have never been on a ticket with Wallace.
Agreed. James Utt, John Ashbrook, or John Schmitz might, as might Democrat Sam Yorty. Anyone of these would have a similar effect, minus Arizona, on the bottom of the ticket.
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2016, 08:04:21 AM »

Goldwater would have never been on a ticket with Wallace.
I agree. The only way that this could have happened was if Wallace won the 1958 gubernatorial Democratic nomination. He probably would have turned out still conservative and populist but far less racist.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2016, 10:31:55 AM »

The incumbent still wins. The indepedent (southern racist) ticket can't expand its support over the deep south.



✓ President Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Senator Hubert Humphrey: 331 EVs.; 51.7%
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Governor George Romney (R-MI): 154 EVs.; 42.8%
Senator Barry Goldwater (I-AZ)/Governor George Wallace (I-AL): 53 EVs.; 5.1%
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