Opinion of marxists.org

[Kingpoleon]

FS (not a complete moron)

Just because BRTD is a complete moron and thinks something is a HS doesn't mean that everyone who thinks it's FS isn't a complete moron. That's a logical fallacy. Which you have evenly distributed between you two, as good socialists.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

'At present Marxism neither interprets the world nor changes it: it is merely a repertoire of slogans serving to organize various interests, most of them completely remote from those with which Marxism originally identified itself.'

But this does not mean that Marxist texts are not of significant historical interest. It isn't possible to make sense of the 20th century without some understanding of Marxism or at least of Marxist movements.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

'At present Marxism neither interprets the world nor changes it: it is merely a repertoire of slogans serving to organize various interests, most of them completely remote from those with which Marxism originally identified itself.'

Should I read Main Currents of Marxism? The fact that it starts with a Neoplatonism->Hegel genealogy really intrigues me.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Should I read Main Currents of Marxism? The fact that it starts with a Neoplatonism->Hegel genealogy really intrigues me.

Oh yes. It's fantastic and I think you'd get a lot out of it.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Marx is useful in the same way that Freud is for psychology.i.e. hid conclusions have long been debunked, but his methods remain useful to understand.

And of course, if you want a good understanding of politics, reading people like Gramsci will help. Don't dismiss academic writing because the conclusions are wrong - it's fine to mock journalists and popular intellectuals, but normally scholarly writing has a method, even if it reaches bizarre ends.

[Pingvin]

Into the oven it goes.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'm curious how the people voting Horrible Site think people--budding historians and comparative political scientists especially--should learn about Marxist thought. Should they have to extrapolate or guesstimate what it is/was like solely from the writings of its critics, like how we're only conversant with Arian doctrine through proto-Orthodox attacks on it? Is there some sort of weird snobbery or fear specifically about having it all available for free in one place going on here? I don't understand how anyone other than BRTD and fascist creeps like Pingvin who don't believe in free speech anyway is voting HS.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Strongly approve. An excellent historical source. I concur with what Nathan said.