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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2016, 10:26:52 AM »

A tie is still pathetic for her considering that she's basically destroying and demonizing Trump on the airwaves and outspending him 10-1.

Most candidates don't have to deal with have the crap Hillary does. And what I mean by that is, most candidates don't have years long Congressional investigations that lead to FBI investigations that lead to basically a non-stop staggered release of documents/emails/etc and the like all the way up to election day. Trump has been more subdued lately while more and more damaging stuff about Clinton continues to come out.

She is damaged goods, and there is only so much ads can do, even if you spend far more than the opponent. My point is, given the circumstances, I don't know if I'd call it pathetic. Trump is despicable and incompetent for sure, but Clinton has problems that are apparently nearly as bad but in a different regard. If she didn't have the emails/FBI/foundation issues, I suspect things would be quite different right now.
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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2016, 10:27:01 AM »

Wow, Hillary is just not putting this away. Should have gone with Biden.

She'll put the devil away on election day. I really need to reserve White People Mourning Trump on Tumblr, because White People Mourning Romney was hilarious in 2012.
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« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2016, 10:29:45 AM »

If she just wasn't corrupt, she'd be winning in landslide.
Agree!
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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2016, 10:30:14 AM »

Wow, Hillary is just not putting this away. Should have gone with Biden.

She'll put the devil away on election day. I really need to reserve White People Mourning Trump on Tumblr, because White People Mourning Romney was hilarious in 2012.

This sh**t is getting old, it's stuff like this that opened the door to Trump in the first place. Would Minority People Mourning Hillary be seen as funny, or racist? We need unity in this country.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2016, 10:31:14 AM »


Don't change my words around you Swedish meatball.
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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2016, 10:32:14 AM »

Just summed up what you was saying, bro Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2016, 10:33:34 AM »

Wow, Hillary is just not putting this away. Should have gone with Biden.

She'll put the devil away on election day. I really need to reserve White People Mourning Trump on Tumblr, because White People Mourning Romney was hilarious in 2012.

This sh**t is getting old, it's stuff like this that opened the door to Trump in the first place. Would Minority People Mourning Hillary be seen as funny, or racist? We need unity in this country.

Oh, be quiet. Your act is old.
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2016, 10:34:47 AM »


That would be a decent summary if I actually thought the emails/foundation "scandals" meant she was corrupt, which I don't.
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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2016, 10:38:15 AM »


That would be a decent summary if I actually thought the emails/foundation "scandals" meant she was corrupt, which I don't.

Just put him on ignore like most of us do.
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2016, 10:42:04 AM »


That would be a decent summary if I actually thought the emails/foundation "scandals" meant she was corrupt, which I don't.

Just put him on ignore like most of us do.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2016, 10:43:21 AM »

Wow, Hillary is just not putting this away. Should have gone with Biden.

She'll put the devil away on election day. I really need to reserve White People Mourning Trump on Tumblr, because White People Mourning Romney was hilarious in 2012.

This sh**t is getting old, it's stuff like this that opened the door to Trump in the first place. Would Minority People Mourning Hillary be seen as funny, or racist? We need unity in this country.

Oh, be quiet. Your act is old.

Actually, my silence / complicity during the SJW wave 2013-15 was the act. I was afraid of being called out by "progressives" if I didn't tow the line. Huge mistake.
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2016, 10:58:03 AM »


That would be a decent summary if I actually thought the emails/foundation "scandals" meant she was corrupt, which I don't.

Just put him on ignore like most of us do.

You're making the rest of us Swedes on here look bad, Mr. Octopus.
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2016, 11:18:59 AM »

Dems
Clinton 78%
Trump 15%
Johnson 2%
McMullin 1%
Stein 1%

GOP
Trump 85%
Clinton 5%
Johnson 2%
McMullin 1%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 36%
Clinton 32%
Johnson 17%
Stein 3%
McMullin 2%
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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2016, 12:32:25 PM »

That McMullin guy is on the ballot here? What state ballots is he actually expected to be on?
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2016, 12:34:52 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2016, 12:42:43 PM by Maxwell »

this is exactly the kind of margins he needs among whites to win

looks like his "good god, we have to save suburban whites" strategy is working.

for the record, PPP has always showed a closer race than other pollsters.
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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2016, 12:35:37 PM »

That McMullin guy is on the ballot here? What state ballots is he actually expected to be on?
I don't think he is
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2016, 12:37:22 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2016, 12:39:18 PM by Seriously? »

PPP must have turned into junk over the weekend.... The interns must have conducted this poll... Or... Perhaps, it's a tied race within the margin of error.....
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2016, 12:58:42 PM »

That McMullin guy is on the ballot here? What state ballots is he actually expected to be on?
I don't think he is

He's not: http://ballot-access.org/2016/09/07/evan-mcmullin-will-not-be-on-florida-ballot/
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2016, 01:01:21 PM »

Jesus, the American people really are stupid as f-ck, it seems.
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2016, 01:03:08 PM »

Jesus, the American people really are stupid as f-ck, it seems.

About 90% of them according to the polls.
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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2016, 03:10:54 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2016, 03:21:18 PM by Maxwell »

Romney won slightly more whites than Trump (around 61% vs. 60% for Trump), but Clinton is winning quite a few less than Obama (33% vs. 37%).

Adjusting for 2012 turnout actually makes this poll worse - and making the assumption undecides split evenly, in a two-way I get a Trump win of 51%-49%. He does worse with hispanics, but makes enough improvement with whites and blacks to make a difference.
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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2016, 03:15:11 PM »


Junk.
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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2016, 03:26:23 PM »

Also remember there's still a lot of Dixiecrats in Northern Florida.
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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2016, 03:28:42 PM »


Right.  We call them Republicans.

Hillary Clinton is not the one having problems rallying her base.  There's no reason to suspect that Republicans are more pro-Trump than Democrats are pro-Clinton.
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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2016, 03:29:47 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2016, 04:43:09 PM by Sprouts Farmers Market ✘ »


Right.  We call them Republicans.

Hillary Clinton is not the one having problems rallying her base.  There's no reason to suspect that Republicans are more pro-Trump than Democrats are pro-Clinton.

You must've missed Sanders' (and I'm reminded below - O'Malley's!) performance up there. Yes, people self-identify, but a good number are probably lifers. DEMOCRATS FOR TRUMP!
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