Which of the following Trump advocates do you think are going to run in 2020

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Present:
Unless the Donald pulls off a surprising victory, all of the people are (burnt) toast. They would be carrying the Trump plague.

Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee:
I actually think Pence could have a solid shot at the nomination in 2020 if Trump loses.

Some percentage of the Trump vote will go to him and there is nothing that Ted Cruz can out do him on.

And frankly you guys are all miscalculating this, which does not surprise me. Hannity is already calling Cruz a saboteur and he is more powerful than Beck. If Trump loses, whatever devil Trump might have been in office will never be known, instead there will be the devil in the White House and anybody who is viewed as being complicit in helping to facilitate her election will be viewed with hostility.

Pence is a natural candidate for all of Cruz's voters and Pence has consistency on his side for much longer. You go back a decade or more and you find Pence voting against Bush on NCLB and opposing  out of control spending. Like most Texas Republicans, Cruz was a Bush shill for most of the 2000's. Pence trying to make the best of Trump and help defeat Hillary Clinton will sell much better to GOP vote audiences then Cruz's intransigence and shifting stories on the motivation for it.

Beefalow and the Consumer:
Quote from: Eternal Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 23, 2016, 01:54:16 AM

I actually think Pence could have a solid shot at the nomination in 2020 if Trump loses.



Quote from: Spark498 on August 21, 2016, 12:41:54 AM

Maybe Scott Brown but he has no chance lol.


Vosem:
Among the politicians, Christie and Pence are likelier than not to run, LePage is a possibility, and the rest are vanishingly unlikely. Gingrich and Giuliani are both has-beens, and Stewart is from the wrong state. Don't think Brown would run if he didn't in 2016; perhaps some day in the future he'll try for NH office again (2022 Senate race?). The non-politicians are difficult to predict, though I suspect Flynn, Icahn, and Carson are the likeliest, in that order. Thiel would be a strong possibility if not for the fact that he is, as others have noted, not a natural-born citizen.

On the Cruz speculation, Cruz rose from barely over footnote status (entering at 4-5%) to the mid-20s nationally mostly by doing well in debates; his organization was always limited to a select few states (most obviously Iowa). So long as multiple, repeated pre-primary debates remain a part of the landscape for the 2020 race and Cruz throws plenty of red meat has a coherent answer to the "you helped elect Hillary" attack, he will be a candidate to be reckoned with in 2020.

IceSpear:
Quote from: Eternal Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 23, 2016, 01:54:16 AM

I actually think Pence could have a solid shot at the nomination in 2020 if Trump loses.

Some percentage of the Trump vote will go to him and there is nothing that Ted Cruz can out do him on.

And frankly you guys are all miscalculating this, which does not surprise me. Hannity is already calling Cruz a saboteur and he is more powerful than Beck. If Trump loses, whatever devil Trump might have been in office will never be known, instead there will be the devil in the White House and anybody who is viewed as being complicit in helping to facilitate her election will be viewed with hostility.

Pence is a natural candidate for all of Cruz's voters and Pence has consistency on his side for much longer. You go back a decade or more and you find Pence voting against Bush on NCLB and opposing  out of control spending. Like most Texas Republicans, Cruz was a Bush shill for most of the 2000's. Pence trying to make the best of Trump and help defeat Hillary Clinton will sell much better to GOP vote audiences then Cruz's intransigence and shifting stories on the motivation for it.



Er, I'm pretty sure Trump has shown many GOP primary voters couldn't care less about policy positions. Cruz is far better at throwing out the red meat than boring Pence. Pence would be Walker 2.0.

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