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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2016, 03:42:28 pm »

And it's difficult to get clients as a pollster if you can't show examples of your work. Obviously PPP has its array of "regular" polls, which is why its internals are less bad than other internals. But most internal pollsters do little or no "regular" polling, so their primary method of getting examples to show future clients is skewing the polls for their current cilents.
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2016, 04:46:45 pm »

Another poll that seems roughly consistent with a 7 or 8 point lead nationally for Hillary. I'll take it.

The numbers sound about right, although again it looks like there are a significant chunk of voters <45 that are undecided, so if Hillary's current lead holds, this could end up being a squeaker on election day circa 2008.
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2016, 03:35:00 am »
« Edited: August 18, 2016, 03:40:44 am by Seriously? »

PPP has too good of a reputation to skew their polls for their clients.
The record shows a house effect for whomever is paying for the poll. It's a slight one (a few points), but it's a house effect nonetheless. This happened with the Senate races PPP was doing for an advocacy group prior to the 2014 midterms. PPP followed with their own polls that were on average a few points more favorable to the Republicans.

Keep in mind that the client in these instances will likely control what gets released.

With that said, this one is a little better than some of the obvious partisan polls PPP put out last week that were RV instead of LV. PPP usually just puts out LV polls, but the SC poll for the Democrats was RV for obvious reasons. The Missouri poll went back to likely voters.
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