Would Hillary winning Arizona and Georgia end the Southern Strategy forever?
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2016, 08:29:30 AM »

With three Presidential losses in a row, the Republicans would have to do something drastic.  Since the opposite of Donald Trump is a boring conservative person who is not both white and male, I'd suspect somebody to fit that role for the next cycle if the election was a landslide loss.  Will the party realign... probably not.  It might just get more minority friendly while trying to keep their base.
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2016, 07:22:48 PM »

This doomsday propaganda from the left about the GOP being over occurs every cycle and its obviously not true since the GOP holds the house and senate.

The GOP holds the House thanks to gerrymandering.  The GOP holds the Senate thanks to a large number of rural states with small populations, compared to a smaller number of states with large urban populations.

In 2012 perhaps, but not in 2014 and 2010. In 2012, they lost the House popular vote, but they won it in both 2010 and 2014.

Beyond just gerrymandering, the Republicans also benefit from the concentration of Democratic voters and also the lower turnouts the occur in midterm years.

I am fine with ending gerrymandering, but I am not fine with returning to the era of corruption, Bush-Delay style.

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 12:29:21 AM »

The bias in favor of democrats on threads like this is almost laughable. And obviously not because one election doesn't dictate the permanent status of a state. EX: 2004 New Mexico. This doomsday propaganda from the left about the GOP being over occurs every cycle and its obviously not true since the GOP holds the house and senate. This election would've easily been won by almost any other republican. We all know that. Democrats got lucky with Trump, but if clinton wins , which she probably will, Republicans will win massively in 2018 and will win in 2020. History repeats itself.Think back to how the democrats floundered from 1980 to 1992. Bill clinton renewed the party. 2020 will be a renewal as is the natural cycle. Although, democrats got so lucky with trump this cycle considering President obama is neither as popular nor as charismatic as reagan and his successor lacks charisma.

Democrats from 1993 and 2009 completely agree with you - it's no biggie, since downballot offices are in no short supply, everything must be fine!

Of course the GOP isn't done with, but you guys have real problems at the national level and the demographics, both in terms of race and age groups, are presenting a serious issues for you guys that will find its way downballot eventually. This isn't a secret and it has been widely discussed from Atlas to respected politicos. That is a primary reason for such doom and gloom talk, at least from my perspective.

If you think all is fine, then great, but don't come in here acting all snobby like everyone is out of touch and biased. You didn't even back up your argument. All you did was make a bunch of absolutist predictions in a condescending manner.
In Presidential Years downballot races will cost the GOP if they don't step up their game in Presidential Years. In Mid-Term years I think the GOP will mostly be fine in the future if they keep up the times granted their party isn't in the White House. The Presidents Party almost always loses seats in the US Congress and in State Election races.
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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2016, 11:20:28 AM »

No just for this year
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