Describe a Gore '00/Kerry '04/ Obama '08&'12/Trump '16 voter
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« on: July 28, 2016, 04:46:30 PM »

If Trump seriously stands any chance of winning states like PA, WI, and MI, these voters have to exist in decent sized numbers.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2016, 04:58:20 PM »

A liberal who had a religious epiphany and who thus became a member of the religious right afterwards.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2016, 05:26:55 PM »

Socially liberal, fiscally-moderate Northeastern white Democrat.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2016, 07:04:29 PM »

A liberal concerned primarily with trade issues (anti-trade deals, of course), socially moderate.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2016, 07:09:24 PM »

Presumably African Americans put out of work by free trade in the Rust Belt or working class males in Eastern Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2016, 09:42:40 PM »

Poor West Virginian (Obama won WV Whites making less than $50,000 in 2008).
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 09:50:59 PM »

Poor West Virginian (Obama won WV Whites making less than $50,000 in 2008).

In both '08 and '12?
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2016, 09:58:14 PM »

Poor West Virginian (Obama won WV Whites making less than $50,000 in 2008).

In both '08 and '12?

Oops, my bad!!  Almost certainly not in '12 given the margin of victory.  Then again, Trump might overperform Romney '12 in WV, and I'd guess the main swings would be anti-trade Dems, so maybe still?
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2016, 12:53:14 PM »

One of Hillary's ex-lovers.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2016, 05:30:44 PM »


Would made you vote for three liberal Democrats but then against the last one for his reelection?
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2016, 06:08:22 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2016, 06:10:47 PM by Kevinstat »

My answer in the Obama '12/Trump thread is more applicable here (although the voter defined here would be a subset of that defined in the other thread.

A normally reliable Democratic voter for whom the issue of Hillary's e-mails (not Benghazi, as such a voter would likely have voted for Romney) is just too much.

Not that I am such a person (I'm still with her), but I can certainly see that happening.  Many workplaces might be more hostile to her than to Obama ("If I did what she did, I'd probably be taken to some secret prison [substitute Gauntanamo Bay]"), and that could rub off on people.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2016, 06:11:03 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2016, 06:13:47 PM by Kevinstat »


Would made you vote for three liberal Democrats but then against the last one for his reelection?

Perhaps Benghazi was an issue in "President Washington"'s (is he the "President of Atlasia" now?; I don't follow that) decision to vote for Romney in 2012.  It could also be an issue in his decision to vote for Trump this time around, along with the e-mail issue.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2016, 03:07:12 PM »

If Trump seriously stands any chance of winning states like PA, WI, and MI, these voters have to exist in decent sized numbers.

Angry socially moderate/economically left leaning but not far-left white voters who miss the 90s era centrist democratic party and dislike the modern identity-politics driven party obsessed with trayvon martin, etc. esp. courtesy of obama.

Things changed dramatically for the democratic party when Gore lost the EV in 2000.

This is why it's ridiculous that the republican party tried to shove in their own identity politics candidate (rubio) and thought he could win over those disaffected democrats of the new GOP. The whole reason they left the democratic party in the first place was due to identity politics.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2016, 04:51:14 PM »


Things changed dramatically for the democratic party when Gore lost the EV in 2000.


In what ways are you referring to?
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2016, 05:04:07 PM »


Things changed dramatically for the democratic party when Gore lost the EV in 2000.


In what ways are you referring to?

Democrats starting to penetrate the southern firewall of republicans with VA becoming near solid blue due to NoVA, NC turning purple, also NM turning heavily blue, NV turning purple/lean blue, etc. The Rs had the EV advantage in 2000, the democrats do now.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 09:01:06 PM »

A virulent misogynist with left leaning political views.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 11:59:56 PM »

A decent number of people in Eliot County KY I'm sure.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2016, 02:00:51 AM »

Somebody who is staunchly anti-war and buys into the whole #HillaryHawk narrative. They pinched their nose voting for Kerry in 2004 after being a Dean Or Bust voter in the primary, and probably started out supporting Sanders this year.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2016, 05:12:10 AM »

A pretty typical working-class White Democrat who's "had enough". I think there will be quite a few such voters.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2016, 11:13:42 PM »

A pretty typical working-class White Democrat who's "had enough". I think there will be quite a few such voters.

Most of that type of voter already defected and voted Romney in 2012. Remember, this is someone who voted for Kerry over Bush and then voted for Obama...twice.
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2016, 11:41:15 PM »

A pretty typical working-class White Democrat who's "had enough". I think there will be quite a few such voters.

Most of that type of voter already defected and voted Romney in 2012. Remember, this is someone who voted for Kerry over Bush and then voted for Obama...twice.

And some kept voting for Obama, but now support Trump. There's a substantial section of the white working class dem vote, that trump would get, even those that voted for Obama. Somewhere in OH (Turnbull and Manhoning County), MI, IL, South Philly. The remaining democratic vote, in western PA, excluding Pittsburgh, in where some Obama voters might vote for Trump.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2016, 02:58:40 AM »

A pretty typical working-class White Democrat who's "had enough". I think there will be quite a few such voters.

Most of that type of voter already defected and voted Romney in 2012. Remember, this is someone who voted for Kerry over Bush and then voted for Obama...twice.

Not really, no. Romney was the guy who wanted to "let Detroit go bankrupt" and did terribly in Ohio for a Republican.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2016, 11:31:13 AM »

Ivanka.
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