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« on: August 02, 2016, 06:35:17 PM »
« edited: August 02, 2016, 06:44:32 PM by Likely Voter »

Article.

2-way:
Clinton: 43%
Trump: 35%
Other: 9%

4-way:
Clinton: 42%
Trump: 34%
Johnson: 5%
Stein: 2%


(likely voters/July 28-Aug. 1)
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 06:43:09 PM »

Why is there still 9% "Other" in the two way? It sounds like they lumped together undecideds and third parties in what was supposed to be a binary choice. Disappointing, though Clinton is very clearly ahead regardless.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 06:54:55 PM »

As noted from their last release, the 2-way and 4-way polls are completely different polls with different samples. That being said, they appear to have aligned closer. The last release (July 25-29) was +6 2-way and tied in the 4-way.  Their article didn't mention the 4-way so even though you can access the data on their site, maybe they didn't mention it for a reason?

The last couple of weeks Reuters has been acting goofy. They used to make articles with poll releases every week but in the last couple of weeks they have gone every 5 days or so and they switched from RV to LV (with their announced results) and they changed the methodology on their 2-way.  They got a bit of flack from this on this weeks 538 podcast.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 06:54:55 PM »

Why is there still 9% "Other" in the two way? It sounds like they lumped together undecideds and third parties in what was supposed to be a binary choice. Disappointing, though Clinton is very clearly ahead regardless.
Haha, that's nothing.  They include the 'other' option in the 4-way race.  It gets 4%, btw.

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 06:56:48 PM »

BTW, is it just me or is it weird that 5% of their 'likely voters' say they would not vote?
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 06:58:55 PM »

BTW, is it just me or is it weird that 5% of their 'likely voters' say they would not vote?

LMAO
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 06:59:57 PM »

Ugh - mess.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 07:01:26 PM »

BTW, is it just me or is it weird that 5% of their 'likely voters' say they would not vote?

It is weird.  Isn't that the very definition of an unlikely voter?

I've never understood the need for complicated likely voter models.  Why not just ask "how likely are you to vote?" with answers like:

Not likely at all.
Somewhat likely.
Very likely.
Certain to vote.

If the answer is one of the last two, I'd count them as likely voters.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 07:23:40 PM »

Reuters is trash, even if it is now aligning with what is the new normal in this race.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 07:25:29 PM »

Reuters is trash, even if it is now aligning with what is the new normal in this race.

Garbage is still garbage.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 08:07:33 PM »

Why is there still 9% "Other" in the two way? It sounds like they lumped together undecideds and third parties in what was supposed to be a binary choice. Disappointing, though Clinton is very clearly ahead regardless.
They used to have "Other" and "Neither" in the 2-way and 4-way. They got rid of the Neither and rejiggered certain polls retroactively, hence why there was once a Trump lead and then there wasn't.

This poll is just plain unusual. The two separate samples for 2-way and 4-way for starters. But I guess polling costs aren't as prohibitive if it's an internet panel.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 09:42:09 PM »

Truly annoying on the fake "2 way." If these pollsters are including that option, they need to force a binary choice between Trump and Hillary. No undecided, no third parties, no other.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 09:47:39 PM »

Donald Trump is going to get crushed.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2016, 03:02:17 PM »

No new update so I'll just put it here, in today's new polling Clinton leads Trump by 2 in the 4 way, 3 in the 2 way.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2016, 03:23:01 PM »

No new update so I'll just put it here, in today's new polling Clinton leads Trump by 2 in the 4 way, 3 in the 2 way.

lol, what a junk firm.
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2016, 03:47:58 PM »

No new update so I'll just put it here, in today's new polling Clinton leads Trump by 2 in the 4 way, 3 in the 2 way.

lol, what a junk firm.

orrr the media polled at the same time Reuters had it Clinton + 8 and the bump has faded since then Wink
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2016, 04:18:48 PM »

No new update so I'll just put it here, in today's new polling Clinton leads Trump by 2 in the 4 way, 3 in the 2 way.
The newer thread had it at +4/+4 yesterday. Reuters is the most frustrating of all the pollsters, even somewhat unreliable for trendlines.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2016, 04:22:12 PM »
« Edited: August 05, 2016, 04:23:50 PM by The Earl of Lemongrab »

4-way:
Clinton: 42%
Trump: 34%
Johnson: 5%
Stein: 2%

It's not a four-way race. It's still a two-way race with two minor candidates within low single digits.
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