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« Reply #525 on: May 13, 2018, 09:27:38 PM »

It looks like it would function much like the system in IA. The UT commission substitutes for the legislative bureau that draws the maps as a neutral party. Like IA the legislature gets up to three tries at a plan drawn by the neutral party, and if failing to accept them draws its own. This UT proposal seems tighter in how it deals with the situation when the neutral party plans are not accepted. It's worth noting that IA has never gone to the point of rejecting all offerings since their system began in 1980.

Does Iowa allow the Governor to veto maps? If so, that Iowa has had split control of the government in every redistricting year post-1981/2 could account for that.
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« Reply #526 on: May 13, 2018, 10:50:51 PM »

It looks like it would function much like the system in IA. The UT commission substitutes for the legislative bureau that draws the maps as a neutral party. Like IA the legislature gets up to three tries at a plan drawn by the neutral party, and if failing to accept them draws its own. This UT proposal seems tighter in how it deals with the situation when the neutral party plans are not accepted. It's worth noting that IA has never gone to the point of rejecting all offerings since their system began in 1980.

Does Iowa allow the Governor to veto maps? If so, that Iowa has had split control of the government in every redistricting year post-1981/2 could account for that.

There is the possibility of a veto, but articles I've read about IA haven't suggested that. If one party wanted to force the issue and controlled the court, the IA constitution calls on the court to draw the map if no plan is enacted by Sep 15. That hasn't happened either since 1980, but did before the current process was created.
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« Reply #527 on: May 13, 2018, 11:05:20 PM »

There is the possibility of a veto, but articles I've read about IA haven't suggested that. If one party wanted to force the issue and controlled the court, the IA constitution calls on the court to draw the map if no plan is enacted by Sep 15. That hasn't happened either since 1980, but did before the current process was created.

I suppose they could have tried. Not all state parties are as equally ruthless though. If the IAGOP was more like the NCGOP, I imagine they would have gotten rid of SDR almost immediately, along with trying to scrap the redistricting system in place.
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« Reply #528 on: May 14, 2018, 07:03:34 AM »

There is the possibility of a veto, but articles I've read about IA haven't suggested that. If one party wanted to force the issue and controlled the court, the IA constitution calls on the court to draw the map if no plan is enacted by Sep 15. That hasn't happened either since 1980, but did before the current process was created.

I suppose they could have tried. Not all state parties are as equally ruthless though. If the IAGOP was more like the NCGOP, I imagine they would have gotten rid of SDR almost immediately, along with trying to scrap the redistricting system in place.

IA as a whole shares a lot of the sense of fair play known in their neighbor as "Minnesota nice". My visits to UT give me the impression that they may also have enough of that to make this system work.
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« Reply #529 on: June 06, 2018, 06:39:59 PM »

AtlasForce beat me to it on AAD, but:




Debbie Rodella was a Democrat chiefly responsible for no pro-voter access reform passing in prep for this cycle. She blocked a constitutional amendment for automatic voter registration and justified it using Republican talking points. That wasn't all she did though. Here is a little background:

https://www.taosnews.com/stories/rodella-unseated,48746

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With this, New Mexico is sure to see movement on voting rights legislation in 2019, even in the unlikely event they fail to capture the Governor's office.
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« Reply #530 on: June 07, 2018, 07:19:31 AM »

There is the possibility of a veto, but articles I've read about IA haven't suggested that. If one party wanted to force the issue and controlled the court, the IA constitution calls on the court to draw the map if no plan is enacted by Sep 15. That hasn't happened either since 1980, but did before the current process was created.

I suppose they could have tried. Not all state parties are as equally ruthless though. If the IAGOP was more like the NCGOP, I imagine they would have gotten rid of SDR almost immediately, along with trying to scrap the redistricting system in place.

IA as a whole shares a lot of the sense of fair play known in their neighbor as "Minnesota nice". My visits to UT give me the impression that they may also have enough of that to make this system work.

Ohio is a bit interesting in that regard because whether the emphasis on fair play and civility kicks in really depends on geography.  The Cleveland folks (especially on the Democratic side, but Republicans too) tend to be “anything goes” junkyard dogs of OH politics.  Even Voinovich (a politician who was pretty beloved by most Ohioans of all stripes, myself included) had to learn the hard way that most of OH outside of the Cleveland metro simply won’t put up with that crap and will vote against you for going Hard Negative (2016 was a fluke where Hillary - like Mittens - might as well have been tailor-made to lose OH and Democrats here have both a lower floor and lower ceiling than Republicans).  

Akron politics are really an extension of Cleveland politics.  There are a few other areas like the blood-red counties around HamCo (Warren, Butler, Clarmont and such), Youngstown (which has been desensitized to dirty pool due to all the relatively open political corruption there), etc that are also fine with folks going hard negative, but in much of the state, it tends to backfire.  Suburban Franklin County in particular seems to have limits to the types of negative campaigning it is willing to tolerate.

Some of the folks who have been badly damaged by going Hard Negative include Voinovich (the pedophile ad), Metzenbaum (claiming a veteran had never held a real job), Mandel (part of why he’s so hated is the smear campaign against Brown from 2012 Re: the false DV accusations), Jean Schmidt (calling a veteran a “coward” is simply incompatible with Ohio values and she was generally a nasty person), and Ben Cupp (lost a State Supreme Court race to William “I’m gonna post about my sex life on FB” O’Neill largely b/c Cupp ran an ad accussing O’Neill of being soft on pedophiles as a judge...that and O’Neill is a good Irish name Tongue )

This seems to be changing a bit on the Republican side, but I think there’s still a real distaste in much of OH for Hard Negative campaigning.  Folks are also starting to get pretty fed up with gerrymandering too, but both state parties want to keep it around as long as possible.
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« Reply #531 on: June 07, 2018, 05:33:20 PM »

North Carolina Republicans giving voter ID another go with a legislatively-referred constitutional amendment:

https://www.wral.com/amendment-would-put-voter-id-in-nc-constitution/17611888/

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Hilarious that it would only apply to in-person and not absentee voting. They have more reason to be worried about absentee than in-person fraud. That is a completely partisan decision they made there.
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« Reply #532 on: June 09, 2018, 03:38:40 PM »

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« Reply #533 on: June 13, 2018, 05:59:11 PM »

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« Reply #534 on: June 13, 2018, 07:22:40 PM »


Should have done this when the maps were drawn, Eric, since you *had to sign off on them.*
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« Reply #535 on: June 14, 2018, 02:39:40 PM »

DoJ is suing Kentucky to force them to purge their voter rolls.
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« Reply #536 on: June 14, 2018, 02:51:33 PM »

DoJ is suing Kentucky to force them to purge their voter rolls.

Seems like a spurious VRA case
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« Reply #537 on: June 16, 2018, 01:09:37 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2018, 01:22:33 PM by Virginia »

So it looks like PA Republicans, in addition to changing the current redistricting commission, want to elect appellate judges (including Supreme Court) by district, vs statewide as they do right now.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/state/pennsylvania-senate-gerrymandering-redistricting-reform-bill-sb22-judicial-district-20180613.html

I'm not sure what their new redistricting commission looks like right now, but the first iteration basically gave the legislature the final say in what was a sham commission. Either way, this is a pretty blatant power grab after the state Supreme Court didn't rule the way they liked.

It still has to be approved by the House, and then both chambers have to vote on this again in 2019, and then voters would have to approve it in 2020, so there are a couple big milestones where Democrats can fight this. If Republicans want to create a better judicial system, get rid of judicial elections entirely and just do it the federal way - executive appointment with Senate confirmation.

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http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/john_baer/pennsylvania-redistricting-reform-imperiled-liberal-split-20180605.html

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That doesn't seem too bad, although I'm curious if there are any smaller details that might matter.
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« Reply #538 on: June 18, 2018, 05:08:58 PM »
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ETA: The judge also ordered Kobach to take some legal classes!  That's hilarious.

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« Reply #539 on: June 19, 2018, 02:51:11 AM »

ETA: The judge also ordered Kobach to take some legal classes!  That's hilarious.

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« Reply #540 on: June 19, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »

ETA: The judge also ordered Kobach to take some legal classes!  That's hilarious.

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« Reply #541 on: June 19, 2018, 01:16:41 PM »

ETA: The judge also ordered Kobach to take some legal classes!  That's hilarious.

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« Reply #542 on: June 19, 2018, 01:17:00 PM »

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« Reply #543 on: June 19, 2018, 08:51:29 PM »



ETA: The judge also ordered Kobach to take some legal classes!  That's hilarious.

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« Reply #544 on: June 20, 2018, 02:57:40 PM »

More on that Kansas voter ID law:

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"Immediately" is open to interpretation?  Seriously?
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« Reply #545 on: June 20, 2018, 03:13:02 PM »

More on that Kansas voter ID law:

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"Immediately" is open to interpretation?  Seriously?

When a federal judge is speaking, the word “immediately” means “today, the split second my ruling has been issued.”

She should really hold Kobach in contempt of court.
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« Reply #546 on: June 27, 2018, 08:06:51 PM »



Some much needed good news.
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« Reply #547 on: June 28, 2018, 04:19:14 PM »



Some much needed good news.

Who cares? Justice Sean Hannity will write the SCOTUS opinion that finds AVR unconstitutional soon enough anyway.
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« Reply #548 on: June 28, 2018, 09:04:03 PM »

Good to hear, although still kind of annoying that MA Democrats had to have their arms twisted in order to get this.
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« Reply #549 on: July 09, 2018, 10:56:35 AM »

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