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« on: July 13, 2016, 07:03:18 AM »

So this morning new QPAC polls has Trump up in all the important swing states, there's a GOP surge on! This drspite crowing from H-bots and Neocons that Trump is doomed because he doesn't have TV ads. Fave it folks Trump is rewriting the rules for a presidential campaign. The man is utterly f*uckong invincible!

Can't wait for all the shocked faces from liberals and neocons the morning of November 9th, just like the primary.

Trump won, Trump is winning, Trump will win again.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 07:09:12 AM »

Hi, troll (and possible Ljube sock).

Any nonzero possibility of President Trump scares the living daylights out of me.

That said, a series of battleground state polls showing Clinton that far behind, when she is consistently leading in the national polls by a comfortable margin tells me more about the pollster than the state of the race.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 07:13:04 AM »

Popular vote doesn't matter. The #rustbeltsurge is working.

"Honest and Trustowrthy" numbers WAY down for H, looks like the hearing a and FBI report on her emails seriously damaged her. Add the latest investigation into her lies to Congress about the server and at yet more bad news for the Democrats.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 07:23:37 AM »

Nice to be able to put another fact-hating bigotry-apologist on ignore. Thanks for singling yourself out early. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 07:24:43 AM »

Fact-hating? Just pointing out the polls.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 08:39:11 AM »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 08:40:17 AM »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 08:52:10 AM »

Nope, he just can't win. He needs to flip too many states that simply don't fit for him.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2016, 08:53:20 AM »

Let's see what the next few polls say.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.

By which, I mean, America truly deserves a wonderful president since this is a wonderful nation. If Trump wins, he will concede the presidency to Hillary Clinton since he is a Democratic plant.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2016, 08:57:03 AM »

No, I don't care about polls where Trump leads with 41-44%. Wake me up when he's in the upper 40s.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2016, 08:59:45 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2016, 09:14:25 AM by Beef »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.

The rest of the world will not.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2016, 09:07:44 AM »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.

By which, I mean, America truly deserves a wonderful president since this is a wonderful nation. If Trump wins, he will concede the presidency to Hillary Clinton since he is a Democratic plant.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. - H. L. Mencken

My last ember of hope tells me that more and more people will see his candidacy for what it is the closer we get to the election, but sometimes nations, as well as individuals, need to hit rock bottom to realize just how stupid and off track they are.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2016, 09:17:04 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 09:32:06 AM »

I'm so happy this poll came out Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2016, 09:51:42 AM »

Yeah, let's ignore all of the polls prior to this week, and just focus on one fishy Quinnipiac poll, sure. Nice try.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2016, 09:54:42 AM »

Honestly, if Trump wins, America is going to get what it deserves.

The rest of the world will not.
Exactly!
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2016, 10:22:08 AM »

Quinnipiac has had a heavy Trump bias this cycle relative to other polls.  More of the same doesn't concern me.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2016, 10:25:12 AM »

Quinnipiac has had a heavy Trump bias this cycle relative to other polls.  More of the same doesn't concern me.

There is so much wrongness about this poll, including wonky crosstabs.  And blatantly leading questions:

Additionally, read these extra questions. This is polling malpractice and almost sounds like a push poll for Trump

23. The government has gone too far in assisting minority groups

The proper way to ask that question is "Do you believe the government has not gone far enough in assisting minority groups, has gone too far in assisting minority groups, or has a proper balance on assisting minority groups? (OPTIONS ROTATED)"

24. Public officials don't care much what people like me think

Instead, "Do you believe public officials care about what the American people think or do not care about what the American people think? (OPTIONS ROTATED)"

25. The old way of doing things no longer works and we need radical change.

26. Leaders don't worry about what other people say, they follow their own path.

27. The news media is part of the Washington, D.C. establishment, which is out of touch with the rest of the country.

28. Prejudice against minority groups is a big problem in the United States today.

29. I believe trade agreements with other countries have hurt my and my family's financial situation.

All the questions except for 28 are worded for a pro-Trump response
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2016, 10:52:36 AM »

Miami Herald poll now has Trump up over H as well! Combine that with Trump ahead in Iowa, and it seems the worm is turning...

All those millions, all those TV ads, and H gets bupkiss while Trump dominates. How's that feel?

He's freaking brilliant and rewriting the book on campaigns, that's why high-priced campaign consultants hate him--Trump is making them completely obsolete. Twitter+free media=victory.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2016, 10:55:57 AM »

Like someone else said, any nonzero chance Trump could win makes me nervous. That said, one would imagine things would get tighter after a week like last week.

Also, it's Quinnipiac... Not exactly the worlds best pollster
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »

Miami Herald also has Hillary's lead completely wiped out!

Trump is astounding observers and the "experts" yet again and will continue to do so. This election is going to come down to Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Rustbelt will be key--Hillary isn't going to be able to replicate Obama's map and needs to get out of places like VA, NC, and focus on the Rustbelt. She's extremely bad with white, working class voters in the Rustbelt and that's going to kill her in the fall.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2016, 11:10:37 AM »


Everyone said Trump would get a bump after the email situation and Comey's remarks about Hillary, but it'll die back down shortly. I'm not worried about that.

It's not saying much for Hillary, though, that even Trump -- who has several FRAUD cases coming up -- is perceived by the public as more trustworthy and honest than she is. In light of that she certainly does need to work on her image.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2016, 11:13:25 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2016, 11:14:58 AM by Libertarian Socialist »

I am very worried. That you're getting your hopes up rwr. Don't be too disappointed when Hillary wins by a bigger margin than 2012.

And even if Trump wins, he'll still concede the election to Hillary because he's a Democratic plant.
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2016, 11:17:17 AM »

The whole narrative is that the GOP is a mess, Trump will be crushed by ads and Hillary's money etc. Whys it not happening, Dems? Time to abandon the "clown show" narrative or you'll end up like Jeb did when he underestimated Trump.
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