Bayh is back - could this help Clinton in Indiana?
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« on: July 11, 2016, 09:28:32 AM »
« edited: July 11, 2016, 09:30:56 AM by Doctor Imperialism »
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/evan-bayh-senate-run/index.html

This is nuts, the primary was two months ago. Looks like he smelled blood in the water.

I know the conventional wisdom is that presidential candidates help out the downballot races and not the other way around, but Bayh is a popular guy in his state. Could he help turn out Democrats that otherwise wouldn't have bothered showing up?
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2016, 09:32:19 AM »
Nope, IN is not in play. Targeting AZ and GA makes indeed more sense for Hillary.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2016, 09:41:15 AM »
Quote from: TN volunteer on July 11, 2016, 09:30:26 AM
No - just like Pence won't help Trump in IN.

If Pence has any effect at all in IN, it will be a negative one.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 09:42:28 AM »
Quote from: Beef on July 11, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: TN volunteer on July 11, 2016, 09:30:26 AM
No - just like Pence won't help Trump in IN.

If Pence has any effect at all in IN, it will be a negative one.

Wouldn't bother me Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 09:42:42 AM »
Maybe. As a Independent, I'm so glad.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 09:49:26 AM »
Having Pence of the ticket basically guarantees Indiana for Clinton, so this is a smart move.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 09:52:03 AM »
Quote from: SomebodyWhoExists on July 11, 2016, 09:49:26 AM
Having Pence of the ticket basically guarantees Indiana for Clinton, so this is a smart move.

Hillary won't win IN. Her Odds are far better in AZ, GA and especially in NC.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2016, 10:26:44 AM »
No Indiana is Safe R
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 10:57:09 AM »
No, coattails generally work the other way around. Indiana will go for Trump, unless he completely collapses.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 11:02:33 AM »
No, she'll easily lose that state.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 11:22:51 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 11:25:17 AM »
5% chance the floor falls out on Trump and Indiana goes Clinton, but it won't matter, because the map will look like this:



Clinton 405
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 11:52:09 AM »
Quote from: SomebodyWhoExists on July 11, 2016, 09:49:26 AM
Having Pence of the ticket basically guarantees Indiana for Clinton, so this is a smart move.
lol.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 11:59:39 AM »
It will help slightly, but I still don't think she can take Indiana (unless trump really stumbles).
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 12:06:45 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 12:42:28 PM »
Trump might have to pay it some attention, but it's his to lose.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2016, 12:58:17 PM »
Hmm, when do I remember hearing everyone screaming about Indiana being safe R before?
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2016, 01:04:39 PM »
Coattails are overrated.  Reverse coattails don't exist.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2016, 01:08:36 PM »
Highly unlikely. Might win her a point, maybe 1.5 points but not enough to flip the state because Indiana is not super close
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2016, 01:19:58 PM »
Quote from: TCash101 on July 11, 2016, 12:42:28 PM
Trump might have to pay it some attention, but it's his to lose.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/06/donald-trump-campaign-to-target-17-states-in-november-election/

This is 1 of his target states...

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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2016, 03:26:06 PM »

Yeah, NY and Cal were on one of these lists. Follow through will be necessary, and obviously resources are finite. He shouldn't need to give Ind much attention, but he will.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2016, 04:52:57 PM »
People way overestimate how popular Evan Bayh is. Not that he isn't popular, but he's not some god of Indiana politics. There will be a lot of Bayh Trump voters in places like Vermillion county.
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2016, 07:51:46 PM »
No; she has a better shot in AZ, MO and GA. All of which she really should be going for; not just NC.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2016, 08:01:00 PM »
Quote from: cinyc on July 11, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
Coattails are overrated.  Reverse coattails don't exist.
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2016, 08:20:19 PM »
Indiana isn't as safe as people in this thread think it is, but no, Bayh will not help Clinton.

That's exciting news though, as much as I dislike Bayh.
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