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« on: July 08, 2016, 12:24:18 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2016, 12:25:59 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2016, 12:35:30 PM »

I voted no, I don't like the idea of it at all.

However, thinking about it, and putting aside the abuse out west for a moment, what would be the harm of legalizing it? I'm just curious about some of the reasons against it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2016, 12:55:34 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2016, 01:00:11 PM by Goldwater »

I have no issues with it, although I'm not exactly sure how marriages with more than two people would work, contractually speaking.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2016, 12:58:54 PM »

LEAVE IT TO THE STATES
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2016, 01:53:08 PM »

I voted no, I don't like the idea of it at all.

However, thinking about it, and putting aside the abuse out west for a moment, what would be the harm of legalizing it? I'm just curious about some of the reasons against it.

I'm guessing mostly legal and contractual stuff?
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2016, 02:46:09 PM »

Wouldn't have a problem with it as long as there are controls to prevent rampant tax fraud. It seems like there has to be some kind of cap on the number of people you can legally marry regardless, to prevent 100 people or something from all marrying each other to get tax write offs and stuff.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 03:14:19 PM »

If the legal issues can be worked out, yes.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 04:15:50 PM »

Nope.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2016, 04:31:15 PM »

No (not a weirdo)
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2016, 04:33:10 PM »

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 12:08:23 PM »

No (sane)
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 12:26:41 PM »

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.

Not too long ago, people were saying that about people who wanted to bone people of the same gender ... Guess liberalism and being enlightened is, in fact, relative to the time period...
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2016, 12:40:35 PM »

If the legal issues can be worked out, yes.

Basically this. Plus MUH PERSONAL FREEDUM!
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2016, 01:17:54 PM »

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.

Not too long ago, people were saying that about people who wanted to bone people of the same gender ... Guess liberalism and being enlightened is, in fact, relative to the time period...

Liberals who draw this unbelievably stupid analogy to promote polygamy are no better than socons who draw this unbelievably stupid analogy to condemn SSM.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2016, 11:56:53 PM »

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.

Not too long ago, people were saying that about people who wanted to bone people of the same gender ... Guess liberalism and being enlightened is, in fact, relative to the time period...

If you ever get and stay married for an extended period of time, then I may consider your opinion.
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2016, 03:25:51 AM »

God No, anyone who believes this, and wants more than one wife, as previously mentioned, should be institutionalized. I thought liberalism opposed the oppression of women, and all the complications that come with it, but I guess for people it's just much FREEEDOM. Which is the most annoying, not to mention dumb argument.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2016, 04:32:54 AM »
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God No, anyone who believes this, and wants more than one wife, as previously mentioned, should be institutionalized. I thought liberalism opposed the oppression of women, and all the complications that come with it, but I guess for people it's just much FREEEDOM. Which is the most annoying, not to mention dumb argument.

Yeah. It's issues like this that make me doubt whether a large segment of American liberalism is actually left-wing in any meaningful sense. It's pretty clear these people have no understanding of structural forms of oppression and how they flourish under certain "muh freedum"-inspired policies.

Admittedly, if patriarchy did not exist, I'd say it would be a legitimate issue to discuss. Not sure if I'd be for or against it in that case, but that's pretty irrelevant considering patriarchy not only exists but is in fact one of the most powerful and all-encompassing social phenomena in the history of humanity.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2016, 04:33:54 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2016, 05:07:13 AM »

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2016, 10:26:09 AM »

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).

Even if it is completely consensual, there's the damaging psychological effects on any children that are raised by parents practicing polygamy.  And of course, pretty much every time polygamy has been legalized, women have suffered as a result.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2016, 10:32:55 AM »

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).

Even if it is completely consensual, there's the damaging psychological effects on any children that are raised by parents practicing polygamy.  And of course, pretty much every time polygamy has been legalized, women have suffered as a result.

Really? Do you have a source for that claim?
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2016, 10:49:44 AM »

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).

Even if it is completely consensual, there's the damaging psychological effects on any children that are raised by parents practicing polygamy.  And of course, pretty much every time polygamy has been legalized, women have suffered as a result.

Really? Do you have a source for that claim?

I forget which thread and don't care enough to spend 15-20 minutes looking for it (no offense, I don't mean that in a dismissive way or anything), but there was another thread where someone was debating this with L.D. Smith and already covered all of that in detail (with a number of sources).  If you're really curious, I'm sure you can find the thread.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2016, 10:57:17 AM »

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).

Even if it is completely consensual, there's the damaging psychological effects on any children that are raised by parents practicing polygamy.  And of course, pretty much every time polygamy has been legalized, women have suffered as a result.

Really? Do you have a source for that claim?

I forget which thread and don't care enough to spend 15-20 minutes looking for it (no offense, I don't mean that in a dismissive way or anything), but there was another thread where someone was debating this with L.D. Smith and already covered all of that in detail (with a number of sources).  If you're really curious, I'm sure you can find the thread.

I see. I'm just of skeptical of how, say, having a dad and two moms, or a mom and two dads, would be extremely physiologically damaging. I mean, it's not like the traditional "nuclear family" madel is the only possible way to raise a family.
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2016, 11:19:23 AM »

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.

Not too long ago, people were saying that about people who wanted to bone people of the same gender ... Guess liberalism and being enlightened is, in fact, relative to the time period...

WTF?!  How is this in any way analogous?  Two guys in some other state getting married doesn't affect me at all and in some ways has good legal and contractual benefits.  Three people getting married creates all kinds of legal and contractual issues.

Anyone who thinks they want more than one spouse should be institutionalized.

Not too long ago, people were saying that about people who wanted to bone people of the same gender ... Guess liberalism and being enlightened is, in fact, relative to the time period...

If you ever get and stay married for an extended period of time, then I may consider your opinion.

What this poster said x10.

God No, anyone who believes this, and wants more than one wife, as previously mentioned, should be institutionalized. I thought liberalism opposed the oppression of women, and all the complications that come with it, but I guess for people it's just much FREEEDOM. Which is the most annoying, not to mention dumb argument.

Yeah most American men can't properly take care of one wife and a couple of kids.  If done properly the thought of taking care of one wife and two kids should send your blood pressure into the stratosphere.

If it's completely consensual (and I'm talking both polyandry and polygyny), I honestly don't care. The idea that "normal" relationships can be monogamous only is without a basis.

That being said, I wouldn't be interested in polygamy myself (I'm not interested in marriage at all).

Polygamy in the west isn't normal.  For all the downsides what purpose would it serve?  Most wives are underutilized as it is.  The average married couple has less than 2 children.  It's like we tell five year olds, use what you have first and if you want seconds come back and we will talk about it.

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