Should the Democratic Superdelegates refuse to nominate Clinton?

[Mr. Reactionary]

Jim Webb.

This. Hell, if they chose Biden there would be at least a 50% chance I'd vote Dem.

[President Johnson]

Hilldog should end her candidacy. End it with some decency. She lied, her behavior was so inappropriate and dangerous, that she's disqualified to be president.

[Hermit For Peace]

I'm a member of the court of public opinion.  And right now the integrity of Clinton and the Democratic Party is on trial.   Not being indicted criminally doesn't exonerate her of gross recklessness and dishonesty, and it doesn't exonerate the Democratic Party of culpability in endorsing these qualities as befitting the office of President of the United States.

You sound like a lunatic. You're building a short life span for yourself if you keep yourself mired in such negativity for such petty reasons.

[Beet]

But what exactly is convenient about hiring an IT staff to run servers out of your own home?  This is an elaborate scheme and we deserve to know the motives and reasoning behind it,

It's worth nothing that she had a server in her home during her 2008 presidential campaign (which in turn was an extension of a server Bill used prior to that), and by all accounts her later State servers were just an extension of that. From her perspective she was just doing the same thing she'd always done.

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Source.

It's not like "Gee, normally Secretaries of State have a .gov account, but I'm going to go out of my way to set up this totally new thing."

It was more like "The last SoS had no e-mail address and her aides used personal e-mail domains, and the SoS before that used a personal e-mail domain himself, so I'll use my personal e-mail domain also, which just happens to be hosted at my house." Most likely, at the very beginning it really was just a matter of convenience and familiarity.

[Hermit For Peace]

Hilldog should end her candidacy. End it with some decency. She lied, her behavior was so inappropriate and dangerous, that she's disqualified to be president.

Good thing Hillary doesn't listen to detractors like you. Our country would miss out on a great President-to-be.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Good thing Hillary doesn't listen to detractors like you. Our country would miss out on a great President-to-be.

cringe

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Hillary's supporters are among the most disenfranchised and systematically oppressed people in America. So let's ignore them even more!

You're right. All Hillary supporters have it so much worse than Blacks, Native Americans, undocumented immigrants, and Muslims.

Hillary overwhelmingly won minorities...

Okay, and white male Hillary supporters are more oppressed than minorities who supported Sanders because....?

I didn't say that, although I admit my wording could have been confusing...

Statistically, Hillary supporters are more likely to be people who've been oppressed based on certain markers of their identity. Ignoring the will of the voters who gave her the nomination would, by extension, be yet another way of oppressing these people who already experience serious systematic oppression.

Individuals who have been oppressed have obviously supported both candidates. But if you were to disenfranchise the whole group of supporters for one candidate or the other, it's pretty clear that Hillary's base, as a whole, would be more used to this bullsh-t than Sanders'.  

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Hillary's supporters are among the most disenfranchised and systematically oppressed people in America. So let's ignore them even more!

You're right. All Hillary supporters have it so much worse than Blacks, Native Americans, undocumented immigrants, and Muslims.

Hillary overwhelmingly won minorities...

Okay, and white male Hillary supporters are more oppressed than minorities who supported Sanders because....?

I didn't say that, although I admit my wording could have been confusing...

Statistically, Hillary supporters are more likely to be people who've been oppressed based on certain markers of their identity. Ignoring the will of the voters who gave her the nomination would, by extension, be yet another way of oppressing these people who already experience serious systematic oppression.

Individuals who have been oppressed have obviously supported both candidates. But if you were to disenfranchise the whole group of supporters for one candidate or the other, it's pretty clear that Hillary's base, as a whole, would be more used to this bullsh-t than Sanders'.  

The 16 million total people of all races, colors, and genders who voted for Clinton in the primaries speak for all 85 million non-whites in this country?

[IceSpear]

LOL at this thread. The desperation tastes so sweet.

[IceSpear]

Jim Webb.

This.

I realize this is just a wet dream thread so these replies fit perfectly, but good lord guys, really? Yeah, Democrats are going to ditch the lady who won the black vote overwhelmingly for a Confederate flag fetishist who left the Democratic Party and said he'd vote for Trump.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

No, they would show the middle finger to millions of voters by doing this.

Yes. I preferred somebody else to win, but we must respect the democratic process.

[Devout Centrist]

Still trying to spin lint into gold. What part of no charges do you people not understand? Get over it and move.

Let's say a VP of operations at a public Fortune 500 company is found to have maintained close friendships with sales executives of several vendors.  On business trips they went to concerts, high-profile sporting events, cruises, and so forth.  He then signed lucrative, no-bid contracts with his friends' firms.  Some shareholders raised a stink and called the FBI in to investigate.  While the FBI said there was excessive impropriety, there was no evidence of criminal bribery, and no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges. Is this someone you would want to nominate as your CEO?

Your novel is pretty crappy. No charges equals end of story. You might consider yourself a prosecutor on the internet, but you have no authority in real life.

I'm a member of the court of public opinion.  And right now the integrity of Clinton and the Democratic Party is on trial.   Not being indicted criminally doesn't exonerate her of gross recklessness and dishonesty, and it doesn't exonerate the Democratic Party of culpability in endorsing these qualities as befitting the office of President of the United States.

Sure, nominate someone else. I'll just vote for Johnson as I originally intended to do if Sanders won.

I'm no Democrat, so please don't cry "loyalty" at me.

[skoods]

Delete your account.

[skoods]

Hilldog should end her candidacy. End it with some decency. She lied, her behavior was so inappropriate and dangerous, that she's disqualified to be president.

Look at the lying, cheating, adulterating, raping, racist, sexist candidate you support buddy.

[Hermit For Peace]

Hilldog should end her candidacy. End it with some decency. She lied, her behavior was so inappropriate and dangerous, that she's disqualified to be president.

Look at the lying, cheating, adulterating, raping, racist, sexist candidate you support buddy.

LOL! Sugarcoat much?

[Maxwell]

If you've been following the e-mail story at all, this shouldn't be a new conclusion to you. She was careless in this instance. We knew that early on. Why is this a new shocking revelation to you?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

If you've been following the e-mail story at all, this shouldn't be a new conclusion to you. She was careless in this instance. We knew that early on. Why is this a new shocking revelation to you?

The weight of condemnation was not what I was expecting.  And I am utterly terrified that this will set us down the road to President Trump.

[IceSpear]

If you've been following the e-mail story at all, this shouldn't be a new conclusion to you. She was careless in this instance. We knew that early on. Why is this a new shocking revelation to you?

The weight of condemnation was not what I was expecting.  And I am utterly terrified that this will set us down the road to President Trump.

Abstaining from concern trolling and Chicken Littling would certainly help us avoid going down the road to President Trump.

It's July and the American public has the attention span of a goldfish. Nobody will care in a month, besides people who were never voting for her to begin with.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

If you've been following the e-mail story at all, this shouldn't be a new conclusion to you. She was careless in this instance. We knew that early on. Why is this a new shocking revelation to you?

The weight of condemnation was not what I was expecting.  And I am utterly terrified that this will set us down the road to President Trump.

Abstaining from concern trolling and Chicken Littling would certainly help us avoid going down the road to President Trump.

It's July and the American public has the attention span of a goldfish. Nobody will care in a month, besides people who were never voting for her to begin with.

You're right.  I myself am done caring.  If Hillary had sent goons to break into someone's campaign office and steal papers, then deleted the taped conversation where she discussed it, would it really matter to me?  In all honesty, no.  At this point, I wouldn't friggin' care.  This cycle is such a joke, these candidates are such jokes (that includes Bernie Sanders), and Donald Trump is such a disaster that the choice presented is no choice.  I would vote for Richard Nixon over Trump knowing full well what he did or would do.

I'm going back to commenting on likely election outcomes and keeping my opinions to myself.

[EliteLX]

Jim Webb.

I would vote for Jim Webb with such haste and enthusiasm over Donald Trump it's not even funny. I actually feel as though Jim Webb would win decisively in an election against Trump.

[IceSpear]

Jim Webb.

I would vote for Jim Webb with such haste and enthusiasm over Donald Trump it's not even funny. I actually feel as though Jim Webb would win decisively in an election against Trump.

In an Atlas Forum poll, yes. In the real world, Democrats want nothing to do with the Trump loving Confederate flag fetishist. He's the one that would cause a significant Green Party vote, not Hillary.

Why would Webb run against someone he supports anyway?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Much Chicken Little. So concern troll. Very bed-wetting.