How would Ted Cruz be doing right now if he won the nomination?
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IceSpear
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« on: July 05, 2016, 06:50:26 PM »
Let's say Cruz wins Indiana, Trump decides he's gotten bored and won enough publicity already, and randomly drops out. Cruz becomes presumptive nominee, and everything else happens the same as in reality (besides the stuff about Trump, obviously.)
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2016, 06:55:01 PM »
I think he would be doing better than Donald and would not have inspired the mass defection among the establishment, but he would not be polling as well as Generic R.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2016, 07:06:17 PM »
Ted Cruz is a real, constitutional conservative. I wouldn't have even an ounce of reservation about supporting him.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2016, 07:06:28 PM »
Hot take: he wouldn't be doing better than Donald. He doesn't have the "he tells it like it is" card that contrasts with Clinton. It would be Crooked Hillary vs Lyin Ted
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2016, 07:09:45 PM »
Quote from: whitesox130 on July 05, 2016, 06:55:01 PM
I think he would be doing better than Donald and would not have inspired the mass defection among the establishment, but he would not be polling as well as Generic R.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2016, 07:35:00 PM »
He'd be doing slightly better, but he'd probably have less hope of winning, since although his floor would be much higher, his ceiling would be lower.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 08:15:18 PM »
Not too well, probably worse or the same as Trump.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 08:16:30 PM »
Not great but he would be in far better shape then Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2016, 08:16:52 PM »
He'd be doing horribly...he has the most annoying sounding voice I've ever heard.    Who could stand to listen to speeches that guy makes?
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2016, 09:28:13 PM »
Quote from: Nyvin on July 05, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
He'd be doing horribly...he has the most annoying sounding voice I've ever heard.    Who could stand to listen to speeches that guy makes?

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2016, 09:31:43 PM »
Quote from: Spark498 (Fed-PA) on July 05, 2016, 08:15:18 PM
Not too well, probably worse or the same as Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2016, 09:35:51 PM »
Quote from: Nyvin on July 05, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
He'd be doing horribly...he has the most annoying sounding voice I've ever heard.    Who could stand to listen to speeches that guy makes?
I love listening to Ted Cruz speak. Smiley He talks about all the things I love hearing.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2016, 10:08:33 PM »
Cruz would be ahead of Clinton.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2016, 10:11:23 PM »
Cruz would be about as far behind in the polls as Trump is right now.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2016, 10:13:42 PM »
I absolutely love listening to every speech Ted gives.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2016, 10:58:04 PM »
Quote from: Santander on July 05, 2016, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Nyvin on July 05, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
He'd be doing horribly...he has the most annoying sounding voice I've ever heard.    Who could stand to listen to speeches that guy makes?
I love listening to Ted Cruz speak. Smiley He talks about all the things I love hearing.

Like union busting?
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2016, 11:03:29 PM »
Quote from: Siren on July 05, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: Santander on July 05, 2016, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Nyvin on July 05, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
He'd be doing horribly...he has the most annoying sounding voice I've ever heard.    Who could stand to listen to speeches that guy makes?
I love listening to Ted Cruz speak. Smiley He talks about all the things I love hearing.

Like union busting?
Well, maybe not that.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2016, 12:14:44 AM »
Quote from: IceSpear on July 05, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Let's say Cruz wins Indiana, Trump decides he's gotten bored and won enough publicity already, and randomly drops out. Cruz becomes presumptive nominee, and everything else happens the same as in reality (besides the stuff about Trump, obviously.)

Worse than Trump.  No chance in swing states.  Would lose North Carolina and Georgia.  Smashed in debates. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2016, 12:17:48 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2016, 12:23:01 AM »
I can see it being

Clinton 51%
Cruz 45%

About now.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2016, 08:04:26 AM »
Unlike Trump, Cruz ran a campaign with significant manpower, organization, and infrastructure. It was the reason he performed so well in caucuses.

It's possible that Cruz might have been better suited for the general than Trump is.

Of course, Cruz still lost the primaries to Trump, who ran a lean campaign (and is still working with that leanness); so I have some doubts about this conjecture.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2016, 08:24:17 AM »
Quote from: Redban on July 07, 2016, 08:04:26 AM
Unlike Trump, Cruz ran a campaign with significant manpower, organization, and infrastructure. It was the reason he performed so well in caucuses.

It's possible that Cruz might have been better suited for the general than Trump is.

Of course, Cruz still lost the primaries to Trump, who ran a lean campaign (and is still working with that leanness); so I have some doubts about this conjecture.

For the 100th time, primaries =/= general.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2016, 08:26:41 AM »
He would be trailing in the polls by high single digits.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2016, 08:45:25 AM »
The polls would be steadier with Cruz trailing 4-6. No 10-12 point losses in polls. Utah wouldn't be up for discussion, but Penn probably wouldn't be either.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2016, 08:54:49 AM »
Badly.
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