Are you willing to use the term "radical islamic terrorism"?
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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2016, 08:47:33 AM »

Yes, because it is radical islamic terrorism. Although the sane islam has nothing to do with it or is abused by it.
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« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2016, 09:49:00 AM »

Sure, but I agree with a lot of the experts that it's mainly a product of our foreign policy (namely, large troop deployments in Saudi Arabia) in majority Islamic regions for the past 30 years than anything to do with Islam itself.
We've been in Germany and Japan in large numbers for 70 years.
If you believe in killing adulterers, apostates and homosexuals,  then yes you are terrible, even if you're currently not actively doing it or using violence to install such a government that would.
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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2016, 11:17:20 AM »

Yes.  I use the term RISWA (Radical Islam in SouthWest Asia).
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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2016, 01:55:28 PM »


Neither is, you know, radical Islam.
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« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2016, 02:24:43 PM »

No, and the fact that Republican politicians and their allies in the media relentlessly concern troll about President Obama's refusal to use that term is nothing less than a dog whistle for the (significant) segment of their voter base who believe that Obama is an anti-American Muslim Trojan Horse.
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« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2016, 02:26:11 PM »

"Islamist terrorism" also doesn't claim all Muslims are terrorists and is a much more accurate description. Granted not all Islamists are terrorists either, but I don't really care about offending them any more than I'd care about offending members of a terrible party like the Communist Party of Greece by referring to Baader-Meinhoff Gang as "communist terrorists". To summarize:

Not all Muslims are violent.
Not all Muslims are terrible.

Not all Islamists are violent.
All Islamists are terrible.

except nearly all communists are evil so its not a fair comparison
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« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2016, 03:13:42 PM »

What is your point?
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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2016, 04:51:13 PM »

"Islamist terrorism" also doesn't claim all Muslims are terrorists and is a much more accurate description. Granted not all Islamists are terrorists either, but I don't really care about offending them any more than I'd care about offending members of a terrible party like the Communist Party of Greece by referring to Baader-Meinhoff Gang as "communist terrorists". To summarize:

Not all Muslims are violent.
Not all Muslims are terrible.

Not all Islamists are violent.
All Islamists are terrible.

except nearly all communists are evil so its not a fair comparison

I beg to differ. I feel like nobody is intentionally trying to be evil politically (with an obvious exception for white supremacists etc.) With that said, communism will never work in a non-utopian society.
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2016, 07:08:23 PM »

"Islamist terrorism" also doesn't claim all Muslims are terrorists and is a much more accurate description. Granted not all Islamists are terrorists either, but I don't really care about offending them any more than I'd care about offending members of a terrible party like the Communist Party of Greece by referring to Baader-Meinhoff Gang as "communist terrorists". To summarize:

Not all Muslims are violent.
Not all Muslims are terrible.

Not all Islamists are violent.
All Islamists are terrible.

except nearly all communists are evil so its not a fair comparison

What's your opinion on this bunch of evil doers?

It is estimated that at least 250 girls and women had been gang raped and then burned to death.[66] Children were killed by being burnt alive and those digging mass graves described the bodies as "burned and butchered beyond recognition".[67] Children were force fed petrol and then set on fire, pregnant women were gutted and their unborn child's body then shown to the women. In the Naroda Patiya mass grave of 96 bodies 46 were women. The murderers also flooded homes and electrocuted entire families inside.[68] Violence against women also included their being stripped naked, objects being forced into their bodies and then their being killed. According to Kalpana Kannabiran the rapes were part of a well organized, deliberate and pre-planned strategy, and that this puts the violence in the area of a political pogrom and genocide.[69] Other acts of violence against women were acid attacks, beatings and the killing of women who were pregnant. Children were also killed in front of their parents.[70] George Fernandes in a discussion in parliament on the violence caused widespread furore in his defence of the state government, saying that this was not the first time that women had been violated and raped in India.[71]

Children and infants were speared and held aloft before being thrown into fires.[72] Describing the sexual violence perpetrated against Muslim women and girls, Renu Khanna writes that the survivors reported "that sexual violence consisted of forced nudity, mass rapes, gang-rapes, mutilation, insertion of objects into bodies, cutting of breasts, slitting the stomach and reproductive organs, and carving of Hindu religious symbols on women's body parts."[73] The Concerned Citizens' Tribunal, characterised the use of rape "as an instrument for the subjugation and humiliation of a community".[73] Testimony heard by the committee stated that:

A chilling technique, absent in pogroms unleashed hitherto but very much in evidence this time in a large number of cases, was the deliberate destruction of evidence. Barring a few, in most instances of sexual violence, the women victims were stripped and paraded naked, then gang-raped, and thereafter quartered and burnt beyond recognition ... The leaders of the mobs even raped young girls, some as young as 11 years old ... before burning them alive ... Even a 20-day-old infant, or a fetus in the womb of its mother, was not spared.[73]

According to Vandana Shiva "Young boys have been taught to burn, rape and kill in the name of Hindutva".[74]

Dionne Bunsha, writing on the Gulbarg Society massacre and murder of Ehsan Jafri, has said that Jafri begged the crowd to spare the women, he was dragged into the street and forced to parade naked for refusing to say "Jai Shri Ram". He was then beheaded and thrown onto a fire, following this the rioters returned and burned Jafri's family, including two small boys, to death. After the massacre Gulbarg burned for a week.[59][75]
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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2016, 08:00:45 PM »

^what a bunch of evildoers.
They don't respect women and have zero redeeming traits. They should get a life. Automatic HP.
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« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2016, 03:32:10 PM »

"Islamist terrorism" also doesn't claim all Muslims are terrorists and is a much more accurate description. Granted not all Islamists are terrorists either, but I don't really care about offending them any more than I'd care about offending members of a terrible party like the Communist Party of Greece by referring to Baader-Meinhoff Gang as "communist terrorists". To summarize:

Not all Muslims are violent.
Not all Muslims are terrible.

Not all Islamists are violent.
All Islamists are terrible.

except nearly all communists are evil so its not a fair comparison

What's your opinion on this bunch of evil doers?

It is estimated that at least 250 girls and women had been gang raped and then burned to death.[66] Children were killed by being burnt alive and those digging mass graves described the bodies as "burned and butchered beyond recognition".[67] Children were force fed petrol and then set on fire, pregnant women were gutted and their unborn child's body then shown to the women. In the Naroda Patiya mass grave of 96 bodies 46 were women. The murderers also flooded homes and electrocuted entire families inside.[68] Violence against women also included their being stripped naked, objects being forced into their bodies and then their being killed. According to Kalpana Kannabiran the rapes were part of a well organized, deliberate and pre-planned strategy, and that this puts the violence in the area of a political pogrom and genocide.[69] Other acts of violence against women were acid attacks, beatings and the killing of women who were pregnant. Children were also killed in front of their parents.[70] George Fernandes in a discussion in parliament on the violence caused widespread furore in his defence of the state government, saying that this was not the first time that women had been violated and raped in India.[71]

Children and infants were speared and held aloft before being thrown into fires.[72] Describing the sexual violence perpetrated against Muslim women and girls, Renu Khanna writes that the survivors reported "that sexual violence consisted of forced nudity, mass rapes, gang-rapes, mutilation, insertion of objects into bodies, cutting of breasts, slitting the stomach and reproductive organs, and carving of Hindu religious symbols on women's body parts."[73] The Concerned Citizens' Tribunal, characterised the use of rape "as an instrument for the subjugation and humiliation of a community".[73] Testimony heard by the committee stated that:

A chilling technique, absent in pogroms unleashed hitherto but very much in evidence this time in a large number of cases, was the deliberate destruction of evidence. Barring a few, in most instances of sexual violence, the women victims were stripped and paraded naked, then gang-raped, and thereafter quartered and burnt beyond recognition ... The leaders of the mobs even raped young girls, some as young as 11 years old ... before burning them alive ... Even a 20-day-old infant, or a fetus in the womb of its mother, was not spared.[73]

According to Vandana Shiva "Young boys have been taught to burn, rape and kill in the name of Hindutva".[74]

Dionne Bunsha, writing on the Gulbarg Society massacre and murder of Ehsan Jafri, has said that Jafri begged the crowd to spare the women, he was dragged into the street and forced to parade naked for refusing to say "Jai Shri Ram". He was then beheaded and thrown onto a fire, following this the rioters returned and burned Jafri's family, including two small boys, to death. After the massacre Gulbarg burned for a week.[59][75]

Radical Hindu terrorists who should get the death penealty . Listen these people are radical and saying radical Hindu terrorists doesn't offend majority of Hindus as that's what they are and we don't get offended by the truth .
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« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2016, 04:52:00 PM »

"Islamist terrorism" also doesn't claim all Muslims are terrorists and is a much more accurate description. Granted not all Islamists are terrorists either, but I don't really care about offending them any more than I'd care about offending members of a terrible party like the Communist Party of Greece by referring to Baader-Meinhoff Gang as "communist terrorists". To summarize:

Not all Muslims are violent.
Not all Muslims are terrible.

Not all Islamists are violent.
All Islamists are terrible.

except nearly all communists are evil so its not a fair comparison

I beg to differ. I feel like nobody is intentionally trying to be evil politically
You're presumably unfamiliar with /r/communism?
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« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2016, 04:09:20 AM »

Yes, have to name the problem instead of being politically correct.
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