What would a disastrous Trump Presidency look like?
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2016, 12:43:30 AM »

Common decency has an anti-Trump bias.
Disagree. Common decency respects the rule of law and the sunshine laws, which the Clintons care little about.

Did I say or even imply that it had a pro-Clinton bias?
Oh, there's a pro-Clinton bias on here. It's comical.

Only inasmuch as there's an eminently reasonable consensus that 'secretive and sketchy' is better than 'secretive, sketchy, completely unqualified, and clearly unstable'.
Hillary! is stable? The woman is completely incompetent, drunk and prone to throwing things in anger.

Stabler than 'John Miller'. Also I've never heard the accusation that she's a sot before.
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2016, 01:04:56 AM »

Worst case scenario: The American economy collapses as Trump starts trade wars with China, Muslim countries, and Latin American countries. Trump's relationship with Congress collapses as Ryan's GOP refuses to support some of his more ridiculous proposals (the Muslim ban, the wall, etc.) - his relationship with the Supreme Court collapses as they rule several of his executive orders unconstitutional. Trump's Cabinet is marked by instability as he fires anyone who tells him something he doesn't want to hear. Riots erupt in the streets as emboldened hate groups target minority groups (especially Muslims and Latinos), who fight back. Congress can't get a budget past Trump, as he vetoes any bill that lacks the border wall, which Ryan's GOP continues to oppose. Trump tries to drastically expand domestic surveillance, but faces resistance from within the FBI and NSA - he tries to fire many FBI and NSA workers, but can't because of civil service laws.

America's relationships with its allies suffer as Trump alienates foreign leaders. Terrorist groups carry out more attacks against Americans in particular. To compensate for America's loss of its allies and its increased vulnerability to terrorist attacks, Trump builds up the military. He sends it out to all corners of the globe to "protect American interests." Troops are on the ground in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Drone strikes are intensified in all places where they currently occur.

Facing dismal approval numbers and two hostile branches of government, Trump tries to prove his strength by sending jets to the South China Sea to monitor China's island-building. China, naturally, is not happy with this. WWIII starts after an American pilot "accidentally" shoots down a Chinese plane. WWIII is fought with hydrogen bombs, and most of the world is rendered uninhabitable.

This is the worst case scenario and I don't think it will happen.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2016, 07:48:34 AM »
« Edited: July 05, 2016, 07:58:12 AM by Beef »

A worst-case scenario Trump presidency?  Is this something you really want me to contemplate?  Dear God in Heaven.

OK.  Realistically...  Donald Trump ignores all policy advisors, staff, and Cabinet and senior officials and goes rogue.  His top foreign policy advisors become Nigel Farage and Vladimir Putin, who learn they can pull his strings by stroking his massive ego.  Working in concert, but never officially aligned, this triumvirate works to dismantle both NATO and the EU.  Right wing nationalist governments rise to power across Europe as, one-by-one, they pull out of the Union.  Germany and France stand alone as sole sponsors of the European project.  Trump and Putin announce a new joint alliance against ISIS and terror, despite its insanity and flying against all US interest in the region and throwing Israel under the bus.  

Russia's influence over Central Europe and Central Asia grows, and Germany is put in the uncomfortable position of being the sole protector of European freedom against ultranationalism and Russian aggression, all thanks to an inept and clueless US President.

Trump gives a Republican-controlled Congress everything they want, with little regard for domestic policy.  He's basically a rubber stamp.  He doesn't have the nuance or intellect to understand economic, monetary, or social policy, and those responsibilities are delegated to whatever Republicans wish to get in line to sell their souls for the sake of power (and in the name of party unity).  Hard-right, Gen-X SCOTUS justices replace Scalia, Kennedy, Souter, and Ginsburg.

The press corps is reformed into a propaganda unit with a tightly controlled flow of information.  Media agencies are given a choice: Stick to the official White House narrative, or lose all access.  You don't see much of Donald Trump, except in very, very controlled situations, in front of flags, well-groomed.  It's not a presidency like we've seen before.  It's a lot of show, a lot of pomp, with very little substance.  There's no humanity, no first family photo ops, no humility.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot: Most of his decisions are motivated by self-gain, and he'll have a team dedicated to covering for this and helping him get away with it.  He might well accomplish this, he might get found out after the fact, he might get impeached during his tenure if Congress falls under Democratic control.  In any of those scenarios, the prestige of the office, and of our government, will be irreparably damaged.

There's no wall.  No deportation of Muslims.  No World War III.  Though we're in a much more dangerous place.  And everything will have changed, not for the better.  The economy has tanked under his lack of leadership, the President is completely unaccountable to the people, total political corruption and lack of democracy is now the norm, bullying, meanness, misogyny, and racism are acceptable conduct, our leaders can insulate themselves from the people, the world is run by nationalist madmen, and all this to thunderous applause.

That is a Trump disaster.
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2016, 09:21:49 AM »

Just a few points:

Economic downturn with high unemployment, unstable stock market due to his unpredictability, several trade wars, massive budget deficits, millions losing health care coverage through Obamacare-repeal, minorities get openly attacked, gridlock in DC since congress opposes several of his ridiculous demands (in return, the Trumpster excessively uses the veto power), chaos in his cabinet since he fires everyone with a different opinion, corruption: The Trumpster assigns government jobs with his businesses, relations with allies hit an all-time low; the Trumpster insults several world leaders as “losers”, “lightweights” and “disgusting animals” etc.
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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2016, 10:32:13 AM »

Republicans lose the House in 2018 and most contested Governorships. They have few vulnerable seats in the Senate, so they nearly break even there.By 2020 Americans are ready to reverse practically all Republican Senate gains of 2014, and they so do.

Donald Trump or his would-be Republican successor loses the Presidency on the scale of Carter in 1980 or Hoover in 1932.
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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2016, 03:16:27 PM »


All his billionaire class buddies will become trillionaires because of Trump's bias toward business and his total lack of compassion for the middle class.

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