Opinion of Joseph McCarthy

[DavidB.]

FF (not a commie)

So you support mindlessly targeting and blacklisting people because of a political ideology they may or may not support? That's despicable.

Another New York intellectual™ defending dangerous communists. Sad!

[LLR]

FF (not a commie)

So you support mindlessly targeting and blacklisting people because of a political ideology they may or may not support? That's despicable.

Another New York intellectual™ defending dangerous communists. Sad!

I'm not defending communism I'm defending people not being persecuted if they're communists. Because whenever we persecute people based on their beliefs,  it goes great, right?

[DavidB.]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

[LLR]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

[DavidB.]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

No, for Joseph McCarthy

[LLR]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

No, for Joseph McCarthy

So it's ok to persecute people's beliefs in some situations but not others?

[DavidB.]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

No, for Joseph McCarthy

So it's ok to persecute people's beliefs in some situations but not others?

You know I've been trolling, right? "New York Intellectual" should be the giveaway -- since I'm a Jew myself I'm not exactly likely to use that dog whistle in a serious way...

[LLR]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

No, for Joseph McCarthy

So it's ok to persecute people's beliefs in some situations but not others?

You know I've been trolling, right? "New York Intellectual" should be the giveaway -- since I'm a Jew myself I'm not exactly likely to use that dog whistle in a serious way...

Whoops XD. Well sometimes arguing with a troll is more fun

Also doesn't change the fact that some people were totally serious.

[mencken]

Cannot really complain about a guy who preferred to clean house in the bloated domestic bureaucracy rather than go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. How many of the people voting HP would vote the same for Truman, Kennedy (a personal friend of McCarthy), or Johnson, all of whose anti-Communist crusades were far less fruitful and cost infinitely more lives?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

Is that your justification for the holocaust?

No, for Joseph McCarthy

So it's ok to persecute people's beliefs in some situations but not others?

You know I've been trolling, right? "New York Intellectual" should be the giveaway -- since I'm a Jew myself I'm not exactly likely to use that dog whistle in a serious way...

Whoops XD. Well sometimes arguing with a troll is more fun

Also doesn't change the fact that some people were totally serious.

I assume everyone uses this site non-seriously until proven otherwise

[All Along The Watchtower]

HP who was right about the threat of Communism but was a demagogue who accused a lot of innocent people of being Reds.

[EnglishPete]

HP who was right about the threat of Communism but was a demagogue who accused a lot of innocent people of being Reds.

He accused quite a number of guilty red infiltrators of being what they were, for example

Solomon Adler
Cedric Belfrage
TA Bisson
V Frank Coe
Laughlin Currie
Harold Glasser
David Kart
Mary Jane Keeney
Leonard Mins
Frank Neumann

all later confirmed in the Venona intercepts to be communist asserts. He uncovered a great deal more communist agents beyond those. You say he accused a lot of innocent non communists as well. Perhaps you could name some of them?

[Sumner 1868]

Truly the pioneer of the modern GOP.

[EnglishPete]

Truly the pioneer of the modern GOP.

You say that like its a bad thing.

Seriously thought he was concerned about communist infiltration of government and its toleration by the Democratic party. Just consider some of the damage done by communist agents in the 1940s. They were responsible for helping the Soviet Union obtain nuclear weapons giving them a stronger military position.

They were also responsible for pushing US policy in China towards abondoning and undermining Chiang Kai-shek thus helping Mao to take over China. Imagine how much happier and more prosperous the people of China would have been. In turn that would have enabled the South to win a clear victory in the Korean War reuniting the peninsula. I suspect it would also given the French a much better chance of beating the Vietnamese communists in 1954. Just imagine for a moment how much better off and happier those two countries would have been if the South Koreans and French had managed to do what the British did in Malaysia and eliminate the communists.

Communist agents and fellow travellers in 1940s US caused incalculable human misery that still continues to this day and Joe McCarthy was a hero for working to expose them.

[EnglishPete]

Truly the pioneer of the modern GOP.

As well as being unintentionally complementary your comment is also literally true in the case of the President elect. Trump's lawyer, friend and political mentor was none other than Roy Cohn.

[EnglishPete]

For those interested in McDarthy here's an interesting interview with McCarthy biographer M. Stanton Evans

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WmrDz5k8pEk