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WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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Fargobison
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WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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Clinton 46
Trump 37
https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/743131478964502528
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Ebsy
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:32:55 PM »
So much for Trump's rust belt breakthrough.
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Classic Conservative
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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This actually is better than I thought for Trump tbh
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Wiz in Wis
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:35:36 PM »
Also worth noting. Clinton does BETTER with LVs than RVs (usually GOP does better). Also, fully 1/4 of Sanders supporters still not behind Clinton. If she leads by 9 given that... wow.
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Fargobison
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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HRC still struggling with some of the Sander's supporters
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:40:32 PM »
This poll is more evidence that, for the 5693th time, Wisconsin is NOT a toss-up. It's Lean D at the very least, and I'd say Likely D is more fitting, at this point.
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Angrie
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:40:46 PM »
Quote from: Ebsy on June 15, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
So much for Trump's rust belt breakthrough.
There is a difference between the potentially competitive areas of the upper midwest (WI/MN/IA) and of the rust belt (PA/OH/MI). They are not the same region. They have different history and different politics, and a candidate can do well in the first group and poorly in the latter, or vice versa.
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Reginald
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:48:35 PM »
Quote from: Wiz in Wis on June 15, 2016, 12:35:36 PM
Also worth noting. Clinton does BETTER with LVs than RVs (usually GOP does better).
Just for the sake of completeness:
LV
Clinton 46 / Trump 37
RV
Clinton 42 / Trump 35
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Holmes
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 12:48:50 PM »
If we can get the Sanders supporters to unite, it could be a 2008-level margin here.
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Fargobison
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 01:07:40 PM »
This poll really makes me want to see an Iowa poll.
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Gass3268
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 01:12:05 PM »
Lol on Walker approval:
39% Approve
57% Disapprove
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Fargobison
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June 15, 2016, 01:28:29 PM »
Basically the only bright spot in this poll for Republicans in WI....
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Ljube
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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Expected.
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Gass3268
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Redban
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June 15, 2016, 01:45:00 PM »
Recall that Trump got a beatdown here during the primary, which was not so long ago. Many GOP voters in Wisconsin have not consolidated over their nominee; who knows if they ever will.
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 01:59:42 PM »
Quote from: Redban on June 15, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
Recall that Trump got a beatdown here during the primary, which was not so long ago. Many GOP voters in Wisconsin have not consolidated over their nominee; who knows if they ever will.
Probably they won't since Milwaukee talk radio continues to be a bastion of #NeverTrump and Walker himself has refused to endorse TRUMP.
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IceSpear
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 02:02:00 PM »
Quote from: Redban on June 15, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
Recall that Trump got a beatdown here during the primary, which was not so long ago. Many GOP voters in Wisconsin have not consolidated over their nominee; who knows if they ever will.
Hillary got crushed as well though.
Are there more #NeverTrump or #BernieorBust people in this poll?
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pbrower2a
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 02:09:18 PM »
13% of the respondents said that they were going to neither vote for Clinton nor Trump.
37 for Trump, 46% for Clinton, and 13% for Johnson or Stein means that Trump's ceiling is 41%, which Hillary Clinton beats easily.
Lowest R percentages since 1920 in Wisconsin:
2008 McCain 42%
1996 Dole 37% (three way race)
1992 Bush 37% (three way race)
1964 Goldwater 38%
1936 Landon 38%
1932 Hoover 31%
1924 Coolidge 37% (Third-Party favorite son won Wisconsin that year)
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 02:16:40 PM »
Quote from: Angrie on June 15, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Quote from: Ebsy on June 15, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
So much for Trump's rust belt breakthrough.
There is a difference between the potentially competitive areas of the upper midwest (WI/MN/IA) and of the rust belt (PA/OH/MI). They are not the same region. They have different history and different politics, and a candidate can do well in the first group and poorly in the latter, or vice versa.
This. I've been to both, and worked politics (in a limited way) in both. VERY different.
(The cheese curds are much better in the upper midwest than the rust belt, for example)
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MT Treasurer
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 04:19:52 PM »
Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
This poll is more evidence that, for the 5693th time, Wisconsin is NOT a toss-up. It's Lean D at the very least, and I'd say Likely D is more fitting, at this point.
Not really. Trump is currently down 10 points nationally and he's trailing by 9 in WI (I expected much worse for him in this state). Hardly "leans D". Also keep in mind that Clinton is not even at 50% yet.
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 04:29:30 PM »
Quote from: TN volunteer on June 15, 2016, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
This poll is more evidence that, for the 5693th time, Wisconsin is NOT a toss-up. It's Lean D at the very least, and I'd say Likely D is more fitting, at this point.
Not really. Trump is currently down 10 points nationally and he's trailing by 9 in WI (I expected much worse for him in this state). Hardly "leans D". Also keep in mind that Clinton is not even at 50% yet.
Trump is down 10 in
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polls. He's been consistently down by this much or more in Wisconsin. If Trump were leading by 7 in one national poll, and then 8 in Indiana, would that make Indiana a toss-up? Also, Trump is not even at 40%. Why does Clinton being below 50 matter more than that? Either way, Trump being down this consistently in Wisconsin doesn't suggest that he's in good shape to win here. Quite the opposite.
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: TN volunteer on June 15, 2016, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
This poll is more evidence that, for the 5693th time, Wisconsin is NOT a toss-up. It's Lean D at the very least, and I'd say Likely D is more fitting, at this point.
Not really. Trump is currently down 10 points nationally and he's trailing by 9 in WI (I expected much worse for him in this state). Hardly "leans D". Also keep in mind that Clinton is not even at 50% yet.
Trump is down 10 in
some
polls. He's been consistently down by this much or more in Wisconsin. If Trump were leading by 7 in one national poll, and then 8 in Indiana, would that make Indiana a toss-up? Also, Trump is not even at 40%. Why does Clinton being below 50 matter more than that? Either way, Trump being down this consistently in Wisconsin doesn't suggest that he's in good shape to win here. Quite the opposite.
Point taken, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of WI being the tipping point state this year. VA is gone for Trump and if the Democratic turnout machine in Philadelphia is a success, WI will be the do or die state for Trump. Kasich, Rubio and Cruz were polling very well there, so if Trump can unite Republicans and pick up some Independents, he can at least make the state somewhat competitive. We'll see, though.
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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Quote from: TN volunteer on June 15, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: TN volunteer on June 15, 2016, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: xingkerui on June 15, 2016, 12:40:32 PM
This poll is more evidence that, for the 5693th time, Wisconsin is NOT a toss-up. It's Lean D at the very least, and I'd say Likely D is more fitting, at this point.
Not really. Trump is currently down 10 points nationally and he's trailing by 9 in WI (I expected much worse for him in this state). Hardly "leans D". Also keep in mind that Clinton is not even at 50% yet.
Trump is down 10 in
some
polls. He's been consistently down by this much or more in Wisconsin. If Trump were leading by 7 in one national poll, and then 8 in Indiana, would that make Indiana a toss-up? Also, Trump is not even at 40%. Why does Clinton being below 50 matter more than that? Either way, Trump being down this consistently in Wisconsin doesn't suggest that he's in good shape to win here. Quite the opposite.
Point taken, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of WI being the tipping point state this year. VA is gone for Trump and if the Democratic turnout machine in Philadelphia is a success, WI will be the do or die state for Trump. Kasich, Rubio and Cruz were polling very well there, so if Trump can unite Republicans and pick up some Independents, he can at least make the state somewhat competitive. We'll see, though.
I certainly wouldn't rule out Virginia before Wisconsin. You could argue that the state's trending Democratic, but it's probably a bit soon to say that it's gone for Republicans. And I'd definitely give Pennsylvania to Trump before Wisconsin. Wisconsin simply isn't a good state for Trump, since the Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents and quite progressive, and Republicans would prefer a candidate like Cruz. It's not impossible that Trump could win Wisconsin, but I don't see it happening unless he's already won OH, PA, FL, VA, IA, and probably a few other states (i.e. already won the election.)
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WI: Marquette Law School: Clinton Leading in Wisconsin
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New Poll:
Wisconsin President by Marquette Law School on 2016-06-12
Summary: D: 46%, R: 37%, U: 18%
Poll Source URL:
Full Poll Details
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Eraserhead
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Re: WI- Marquette Law Poll: Clinton +9
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June 15, 2016, 07:13:15 PM »
Among registered voters (and it's too early to look at likely voters imo) it's:
Clinton 42%
Trump 35%
And not that it matters now but:
Sanders 56%
Trump 31%
I wonder if Cruz or Rubio would be leading Clinton here... I bet Kasich would be at least.
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