What does Hillary Clinton say at fundraisers?
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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2016, 04:17:48 PM »

Probably talks smack about the Atlas forum.
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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2016, 04:20:40 PM »

Probably talks smack about the Atlas forum.

"There are 47% of Atlas users who will call me a harpy no matter what".
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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2016, 04:50:00 PM »

If I had to throw money I would actually look @ Charity & children stuff which would bring me tremendous goodwill & which nowadays every company uses for image/brand make-over as well as marketing purposes.

I pay 5M$ to a politician in his/her presidential campaign without any potential benefit? Why - Because I am inspired by her? Or I like Hillary's hair? Or her famous surname?

Please! Look, do you understand just how rich some people are? Do you understand that some people see government as a great way to advance social/humanitarian goals? Do you realize that some people see campaign donations as a way to help repair damage they see as being done to this country? Not everyone cares about money as fervently as you seem to think.

Not everyone thinks like you. Some people have enough money where they can give large sums and not bat an eye. If I had hundreds of millions, hell, even less, I'd easily invest tens of millions in ballot initiatives and campaign donations solely for advancing voting rights and campaign finance reform. There are a lot of well-off/rich people out there who think the same way, except for different issues.

Just because someone gives money doesn't always mean they want something, or that they want something bad/harmful to the country. You need to get that idea out of your head because it's absurd. It's a damn shame that so many people think that just because you're rich and investing money in politics, that you're 100% evil and have selfish, corrupt goals. There are a lot of rich people who actually do care about this country and the planet. You shouldn't confuse them with people like the Kochs and Adelsons of the world.

This is why I called you a simpleton - Because your views are so narrowly focused on something that isn't even accurate. As far as I can tell, it's not even an insult. It's the truth.

Certainly, there are quite a few rich individuals like that (though I think you fundamentally misread human nature generally - it's not that people are evil, it's that they are biologically programmed to be stingy and self-interested, especially the self-selecting group of millionaires and billionaires with jaundiced, narrow worldviews), but NO corporations beholden to shareholders donate to PACs out of the goodness of their hearts.
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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2016, 04:54:15 PM »

I guess you don't have an actual response.

No I don't mr. Democrat for Kasich.

IDK how you can support Kasich over Hillary.  Kasich is corrupt in the exact same fundamental establishment ways that Hillary is, if not even more so, except that he also has a base conservative lens with which he views the world whereas Hillary at least has a center-left lens with which she views the world removed from all of her corrupting SuperPAC baggage.

What do you get percentage wise for Hillary, Sanders, Kasich, and Cruz on isidewith?
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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2016, 05:00:40 PM »

I guess you don't have an actual response.

No I don't mr. Democrat for Kasich.

IDK how you can support Kasich over Hillary.  Kasich is corrupt in the exact same fundamental establishment ways that Hillary is, if not even more so, except that he also has a base conservative lens with which he views the world whereas Hillary at least has a center-left lens with which she views the world removed from all of her corrupting SuperPAC baggage.

What do you get percentage wise for Hillary, Sanders, Kasich, and Cruz on isidewith?

It's funny how endorsements are the only thing to bring up when no actual responses are left. It's pretty meaningless as to why I have that, I'm more just endorsing him for the GOP race alone. My isidewith goes Sanders>Clinton>Kasich>Cruz, but with a bunch of random libertarians above and below everyone on the list.
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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2016, 05:06:24 PM »

The answer:

"Um, Hi. There's no sense lying to you guys, you know the truth. The only reason I'm as famous as I am is my gender, no one would care if I was a man with the exact same resume. The party has done lots of favors for me solely because of my gender, including clearing the field of everyone but a socialist, a failed governor who got a republican elected to succeed him in a very blue state, a confederate enthusiast, and a party switching freak who voted for Glass-Steagall because his dad's death had just happened. That wouldn't have happened if I was a man, no matter what.

You may not like the favored hand I have been given by the party, but you know that you must obey it, no matter what, or else DWS and Obama will call you sexist, instantly killing your reputation and ending your career, political or otherwise. So Donate to me now, and vote for me always! Or else!"
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« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2016, 06:26:44 PM »

Certainly, there are quite a few rich individuals like that (though I think you fundamentally misread human nature generally - it's not that people are evil, it's that they are biologically programmed to be stingy and self-interested, especially the self-selecting group of millionaires and billionaires with jaundiced, narrow worldviews), but NO corporations beholden to shareholders donate to PACs out of the goodness of their hearts.

I'd wager that is true, but I was talking about individuals. For many fundraisers, including say, Clinton's Hollywood fundraisers, people are donating to help a candidate they like, or help get progress on certain issues, or for other misc. reasons. If you're a wealthy Hollywood philanthropist who simply wants progress on fighting climate change, then you do not even need to ask for anything.  Just donate to the Democrat and you can rest assured that they will fight for it because it's become an important part of the party platform. There are a lot of people in Hollywood like this.

This is what has been bothering me about a lot of Sanders supporters. They don't think about these things. They think all big donations come with thousands of miles of strings attached. It's ludicrous.
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« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2016, 05:12:14 AM »

If you are concerned about Climate Change you would donate to Clinton when he is fighting against Sanders who is the strongest climate change crusader in US political history? Doesn't add for me!

Look maybe there are people who donate because they like her - I accept that. But Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank, City Bank, Bank or America, Morgan Stanley, Walton Family, Hedge Funds, Drug Companies - These very "idealistic", "noble", "charitable" trusts donate to Clinton for the greater good for humanity?

All these people are donating to save humanity without any goal, any self-interest!
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« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2016, 05:22:20 AM »

If you are concerned about Climate Change you would donate to Clinton when he is fighting against Sanders who is the strongest climate change crusader in US political history?

Have you ever heard of a fellow named Al Gore?
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« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2016, 07:56:54 AM »

My guess is that it's a generic political stump speech. People aren't giving her money for the speech.
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