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« Reply #375 on: April 05, 2016, 10:48:25 PM »

Anyone else surprised that bernie isn't doing a little better in dane?

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Wisconsin Primary Preview by Region Part 1

Dane County (Purple)

Democrats – Sanders is going to do well here, but as ElectionsGuy alluded to, Clinton will have areas of strength as well. I expect her to do well in the more well to do western parts of Madison and suburbs like Middleton or Verona. While I expect Sanders to run behind Obama’s 08 margin, he should dominate around the University of Wisconsin-Madison and the Isthmus. Do not be shocked if he breaks 80% in some of the precincts east of the Capitol on the Isthmus He should also do well in the more middle class/blue collar eastern parts of the city and the surrounding countryside/suburbs. Yuge Sanders.
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« Reply #376 on: April 05, 2016, 10:49:19 PM »

Looking at the map I would not be shocked in Clinton only wins Milwaukee County.
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« Reply #377 on: April 05, 2016, 10:49:45 PM »

Jeff Zeleny said the Clinton camp is growing impatient with Sanders and she wants to pivot to the general election so she is about to really go after his gun record his "pie in the sky" policies, etc., and cause him to lose legitimacy by defeating him in upcoming states.
You mean like the complete opposite of this?

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« Reply #378 on: April 05, 2016, 10:49:51 PM »

Uh, why are Democrats so surprised that Bradley won? Republican turnout was higher than Democratic turnout, with more ballots being cast in the GOP primary:

827438 (52%)
765074 (48%)   (That's with 79% reporting on the GOP side and 81% reporting on the Democratic side)

And the numbers for the Supreme Court race so far: 53% Bradley, 47% Kloppenburg

So, not exactly shocking.
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« Reply #379 on: April 05, 2016, 10:50:06 PM »

Kloppenburg campaign manager on local TMJ4 sounds like a moron. Trying to remain hopeful but can't really can't say much lol
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« Reply #380 on: April 05, 2016, 10:50:35 PM »

Sanders' victory in Wisconsin could be seen a mile away, and the details in his victory look to follow very much what has happened so far. Wisconsin appears to have the same results as Michigan and Illinois, however the Detroit and Chicago metro areas were big enough to keep Sanders close in Michigan and have him lose narrowly in Illinois. Without those big metro areas, Wisconsin is Sanders country. Milwaukee isn't big enough for Clinton, and you have a Sanders sweep of nearly all counties, winning 60% in many down the middle but only 50% in the vast majority.
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« Reply #381 on: April 05, 2016, 10:53:51 PM »

Sanders' victory in Wisconsin could be seen a mile away, and the details in his victory look to follow very much what has happened so far. Wisconsin appears to have the same results as Michigan and Illinois, however the Detroit and Chicago metro areas were big enough to keep Sanders close in Michigan and have him lose narrowly in Illinois. Without those big metro areas, Wisconsin is Sanders country. Milwaukee isn't big enough for Clinton, and you have a Sanders sweep of nearly all counties, winning 60% in many down the middle but only 50% in the vast majority.

Yet she's only winning Milwaukee County by 2%. That's embarrassing. Obama won it 63-35 in 08.
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« Reply #382 on: April 05, 2016, 10:54:58 PM »

Sanders' victory in Wisconsin could be seen a mile away, and the details in his victory look to follow very much what has happened so far. Wisconsin appears to have the same results as Michigan and Illinois, however the Detroit and Chicago metro areas were big enough to keep Sanders close in Michigan and have him lose narrowly in Illinois. Without those big metro areas, Wisconsin is Sanders country. Milwaukee isn't big enough for Clinton, and you have a Sanders sweep of nearly all counties, winning 60% in many down the middle but only 50% in the vast majority.

So, clearly Sanders will easily win NY. LOL.
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« Reply #383 on: April 05, 2016, 10:59:47 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.
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« Reply #384 on: April 05, 2016, 11:00:52 PM »

Looking at the map I would not be shocked in Clinton only wins Milwaukee County.

Hillary seems likely to win both Burnett and Polk Counties in NW... Actually won them last time too. They love Hills in the St Croix River basin.
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« Reply #385 on: April 05, 2016, 11:02:04 PM »

Uh, why are Democrats so surprised that Bradley won? Republican turnout was higher than Democratic turnout, with more ballots being cast in the GOP primary:

827438 (52%)
765074 (48%)   (That's with 79% reporting on the GOP side and 81% reporting on the Democratic side)

And the numbers for the Supreme Court race so far: 53% Bradley, 47% Kloppenburg

So, not exactly shocking.

Thank you. Simply raging against college kids will not win you elections in the long run. If the dems are going to secure the states, they need to get their voters out. Imagine the margins if there had not been a competitive democratic primary this year? Would people be raging at Hillary for this loss? Probably not.
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« Reply #386 on: April 05, 2016, 11:02:11 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2016, 11:03:48 PM by Megameow »

Sanders' victory in Wisconsin could be seen a mile away, and the details in his victory look to follow very much what has happened so far. Wisconsin appears to have the same results as Michigan and Illinois, however the Detroit and Chicago metro areas were big enough to keep Sanders close in Michigan and have him lose narrowly in Illinois. Without those big metro areas, Wisconsin is Sanders country. Milwaukee isn't big enough for Clinton, and you have a Sanders sweep of nearly all counties, winning 60% in many down the middle but only 50% in the vast majority.

So, clearly Sanders will easily win NY. LOL.

What do you mean? (no sass please -.-) New York has different demographics, and the geography of the state suggests a different outcome. The metro NYC area looks very favorable to Clinton, so regardless of the outcome of the rest of the state that alone suggests she would win New York. As for the rest of it, I'd imagine Sanders winning strongly in the Adirondack region near Vermont and competitive or winning in western Upstate New York. Clinton should do well in Buffalo and Rochester, while Sanders should do well in Ithaca and perhaps Albany.

My point is that looking at the geography of results so far can tell us a great deal about the states that haven't voted. Geographic patterns help in our predictions, and Wisconsin followed my personal geographic expectations exactly.
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« Reply #387 on: April 05, 2016, 11:04:28 PM »

Sanders' victory in Wisconsin could be seen a mile away, and the details in his victory look to follow very much what has happened so far. Wisconsin appears to have the same results as Michigan and Illinois, however the Detroit and Chicago metro areas were big enough to keep Sanders close in Michigan and have him lose narrowly in Illinois. Without those big metro areas, Wisconsin is Sanders country. Milwaukee isn't big enough for Clinton, and you have a Sanders sweep of nearly all counties, winning 60% in many down the middle but only 50% in the vast majority.

So, clearly Sanders will easily win NY. LOL.

What do you mean? (no sass please -.-) New York has different demographics, and the geography of the state suggests a different outcome. The metro NYC area looks very favorable to Clinton, so regardless of the outcome of the rest of the state that alone suggests she would win New York. As for the rest of it, I'd imagine Sanders winning strongly in the Adirondack region near Vermont and competitive or winning in western Upstate New York. Clinton should do well in Buffalo and Rochester, while Sanders should do well in Ithaca and perhaps Albany.

My point is that looking at the geography of results so far can tell us a great deal about the states that haven't voted. Geographic patterns help in our predictions, and Wisconsin followed my personal geographic expectations exactly.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I was pointing out that demographics have pretty much nailed the dem race thus far, but Bernie fans keep acting like a decent win in a state where they should get a decent win is an amazing come from behind victory.
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« Reply #388 on: April 05, 2016, 11:05:29 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.
Don't you have term limits? He's been in there since 2010.
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« Reply #389 on: April 05, 2016, 11:05:48 PM »

Looking at the map I would not be shocked in Clinton only wins Milwaukee County.

Hillary seems likely to win both Burnett and Polk Counties in NW... Actually won them last time too. They love Hills in the St Croix River basin.

Polk flipped hard after I made that prediction, lol. Burnett is still closish. Marinette County will be close too.  
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« Reply #390 on: April 05, 2016, 11:05:56 PM »

Uh, why are Democrats so surprised that Bradley won? Republican turnout was higher than Democratic turnout, with more ballots being cast in the GOP primary:

827438 (52%)
765074 (48%)   (That's with 79% reporting on the GOP side and 81% reporting on the Democratic side)

And the numbers for the Supreme Court race so far: 53% Bradley, 47% Kloppenburg

So, not exactly shocking.

Thank you. Simply raging against college kids will not win you elections in the long run. If the dems are going to secure the states, they need to get their voters out. Imagine the margins if there had not been a competitive democratic primary this year? Would people be raging at Hillary for this loss? Probably not.

Yeah, I know people love to hate on Sanders supporters, particularly the younger ones, but I don't think we can throw all the blame for this at their feet. And simply getting mad at them won't solve anything.
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« Reply #391 on: April 05, 2016, 11:09:05 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.
Don't you have term limits? He's been in there since 2010.

Nope, he can be Governor as long as Wisconsin wants him to be. Hell Tommy Thompson might still be Governor today if Bush didn't appoint him to be the HHS Secretary.
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« Reply #392 on: April 05, 2016, 11:09:22 PM »

The race was just called for Bradley. Wisconsin continues to be a freedom state at the federal level, but a horrible state at the local level.
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« Reply #393 on: April 05, 2016, 11:09:32 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.
Don't you have term limits? He's been in there since 2010.

No undemocratic term limits.
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« Reply #394 on: April 05, 2016, 11:11:10 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.
Don't you have term limits? He's been in there since 2010.

NO... and he would've gotten rid of them if there would have been any in much the same way he got rid of the Government Accountability Board and changed the John Doe laws. He's a plague.
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« Reply #395 on: April 05, 2016, 11:12:53 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.

President Clinton is going to give us every branch of the Wisconsin government and control of redistricting there on a silver platter.
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« Reply #396 on: April 05, 2016, 11:13:47 PM »

The race was just called for Bradley. Wisconsin continues to be a freedom state at the federal level, but a horrible state at the local level.

HHHHHS. I envy you, Washingtonian.
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« Reply #397 on: April 05, 2016, 11:22:21 PM »

Clinton won Burnett County. I'm guessing she'll get 3 now.
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« Reply #398 on: April 05, 2016, 11:22:40 PM »

If Walker is reelected in 2018, I will be officially done with this state.

President Clinton is going to give us every branch of the Wisconsin government and control of redistricting there on a silver platter.

Sad but true.

Of course a 5-4 SCOTUS vote to end partisan gerrymandering could have happened by then. (wakes up)
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« Reply #399 on: April 05, 2016, 11:23:21 PM »

so did clinton really win 75% of black vote?
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