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Associate Justice PiT
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« on: April 02, 2016, 01:46:56 pm »

I'm not a delegate but I have a question for people familiar with the legal system about this:

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Is it relevant to Atlasia? I don't think we have a Grand jury.

     I think it is supposed that such things exist, but are not playable. There are many elements of civic life that are not part of the simulation, but are nevertheless assumed to exist. Hence why the short-lived standing requirement our Supreme Court adopted made little sense; standing in many important cases could not feasibly exist.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 03:46:13 pm »

1. "All persons born or naturalized in the Republic of Atlasia, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the Republic of Atlasia and of the Region in which they reside, and shall in all cases be afforded equal protection under the law."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

2. "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, nor of the press, nor withholding the freedom to peaceably assemble and to petition for the redress of grievances."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

3. "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor obstructing the freedom of worship."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

4. "The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to vote shall not be denied, except in regards to persons whose account is fewer than 168 hours old, or in consequence of failing to meet such requirements for activity as may be established by law."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

5. "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

6. "Neither slavery, nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crimes of which the accused has been duly convicted, shall exist within the Republic of Atlasia, nor in any place under its jurisdiction."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

7. "A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free people, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be withheld."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

8. "No citizen shall be subjected to warrantless search or seizure of the persons, homes, records, or possessions, and no warrants shall be issued without probable cause, supported by oath of affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

9. "No person accused of crimes under the laws of this Republic, or of the several Regions, shall be compelled to bear witness against himself, nor subjected to excessive bail, nor cruel or unusual punishment."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

10. "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall have right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury of their peers in the Region wherein the crime shall have been committed, to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, to be confronted with the witnesses against him, to have a compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel in his defense."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

11. "No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the armed forces."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

12. "In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the Republic of Atlasia."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain

13. "The enumeration of certain rights in this Constitution shall not be construed as to deny or disparage those natural rights and liberties herein unlisted."
[ X ] AYE     [   ] NAY     [   ] Abstain
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 02:20:57 pm »

Any society without a strong gun control policy is simply opening the door to violence, tragedy, and murder.

Shame on those who don't care about the safety of our people, and in particular shame on those who do not care about the safety of the most vulnerable in society.

By having a no holds barred policy on guns written into the constitution, this convention has done nothing less than to declare open season on the innocents.

Shame on you, shame, shame, shame.  

You do realize that for 8 years, Atlasia had a much stronger guarantee of rights on this matter, and yet we still passed background checks and several other measures that were enver overturned by the courts.

Have rapid fire, high powered guns been specifically banned for ownership by civilians?

My point is, nobody with the exception of law officers and military personnel require these types of weapons.

     "Rapid fire, high powered guns" is a very nonspecific term, but if you are referring to assault rifles (probably the most dangerous example in terms of the intersection between killing power and usability) then they have been tightly controlled since the 1930s.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 05:43:55 pm »

     Aye
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