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« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2016, 12:45:45 AM »

You do have the privilege of voting Green and not worrying about it letting Drumpf win. California is a great state.
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« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2016, 12:49:01 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.
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« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2016, 12:49:12 AM »

I guess Democrats don't want money out of politics or to have any type of progressive legislation for the next president. Your choice.
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« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2016, 12:49:41 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.
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« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2016, 12:49:42 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

There are so many things wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin...
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« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2016, 12:50:27 AM »

It's a shame Hillary supporters try to bully their way to the nomination.
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« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2016, 12:52:24 AM »

I guess Democrats don't want money out of politics or to have any type of progressive legislation for the next president. Your choice.

The Democratic party is the Clinton party. They do what is best for the Clintons.  I wouldn't be half as pissed at the party if they hadn't pulled every trick for Hillary and had all their surrugates lying to try to take Bernie down. They tied themselves way too closely to her.
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« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2016, 12:54:18 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Oh for f**k's sake dude.
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« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2016, 12:55:47 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.

If you support a Jewish candidate, you really shouldn't invoke Hitler or compare anyone to Hitler. Nobody, not even Trump, is as bad as Hitler, and he's not going to be as bad as Hitler should, heaven forbid, he miraculously defeat her in the general election. He's not going to round up Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities and put them in gas chambers and ovens like Hitler did. Comparing the probable 2016 general election between Trump and Clinton to the 1932 German election that produced Adolf Hitler, coming from someone who supports Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is insulting to Jews and all other minorities that were targeted and murdered by the Nazis.
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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2016, 12:56:55 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.

If you support a Jewish candidate, you really shouldn't invoke Hitler or compare anyone to Hitler. Nobody, not even Trump, is as bad as Hitler, and he's not going to be as bad as Hitler should, heaven forbid, he miraculously defeat her in the general election. He's not going to round up Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities and put them in gas chambers and ovens like Hitler did. Comparing the probable 2016 general election between Trump and Clinton to the 1932 German election that produced Adolf Hitler, coming from someone who supports Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is insulting to Jews and all other minorities that were targeted and murdered by the Nazis.

Come on, it wasn't meant to compare to the 2016 Presidential election. Maybe I should have looked for some other good example so that people wouldn't go Godwin's Law. The two main candidates in the 1924 Presidential election were pretty lame too.
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« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2016, 12:58:11 AM »

It's a shame Hillary supporters try to bully their way to the nomination.

You mad, bro?
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« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2016, 12:59:02 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.

If you support a Jewish candidate, you really shouldn't invoke Hitler or compare anyone to Hitler. Nobody, not even Trump, is as bad as Hitler, and he's not going to be as bad as Hitler should, heaven forbid, he miraculously defeat her in the general election. He's not going to round up Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities and put them in gas chambers and ovens like Hitler did. Comparing the probable 2016 general election between Trump and Clinton to the 1932 German election that produced Adolf Hitler, coming from someone who supports Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is insulting to Jews and all other minorities that were targeted and murdered by the Nazis.

Give it time.
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« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2016, 01:00:34 AM »

Well, Clinton's not getting jfern's vote. Big loss, I bet Trump has a real shot at CA now...
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« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2016, 01:02:09 AM »

Instead of letting the Wall Street politburo bully their way into the White House, the Bernie campaign should shut down the Democratic convention unless the party nominates Bernie.
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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2016, 01:02:27 AM »

I can't believe Hillary won when she never disavowed Sepp Blatter
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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2016, 01:03:31 AM »

Well, Clinton's not getting jfern's vote. Big loss, I bet Trump has a real shot at CA now...

The irony is that the last time I didn't vote for the Democratic nominee, I also voted for Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2016, 01:05:47 AM »

we have a choice between a neoliberal corporatist warmounger who could be indicted and an outright fascist/white supremacist. hope your happy now
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Now, comments like these bring me back to a time when my candidate was on the losing side and how we were called every name in the book from uneducated racists to hillbillies and hicks, so I completely understand the frustration.

Keep in mind that if you really want a progressive president, in a choice of Donald J. Trump vs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the choice could not be more clear. To sit the race out or to waste your vote to Jill Stein or any other left-wing fringe candidate is going to do nothing but benefit Trump. If you're really a progressive, liberal, socialist, Democrat, whatever you choose to call yourself, you're going to have to hold your nose and vote for Hillary, just as I, a very BITTER "butthurt" Hillary supporter, did for Obama in 2008 and 2012. I even contemplated voting for John McCain in 2008 after the primary, but the Sarah Palin selection combined with some deep soul searching led me to vote for Obama. I do not regret my vote. I still to this day believe Hillary would have been a better president, but I applaud Obama for his progressive accomplishments he has made during his tenure as President, and I do believe that he has done a much better job than McCain or Mitt Romney ever would have done. ObamaCare isn't perfect, but it's a good start, and Hillary can build on this progress. The first sitting president to publicly endorse marriage equality was amazing as well. I'll be the first to admit that Obama has done far more for our LGBTQIA community than I ever would have imagined.

In the end, it really comes down to principle, and I have realized that over time. Hillary and Bernie, you and I, are on the same team. We may not agree on every issue, but fundamentally, we believe in the same ideals of liberty, equality, and freedom for everyone regardless of circumstance or demographics, a YUUUUUGE contrast from the buffoon whom the Republicans are about to nominate. I implore you to ask yourself, "Would Bernie Sanders want to see Donald Trump as President?" I think not. He even admitted that even on her worst day, a President Hillary Clinton would be ten times better than any Republican President.

I have always respected and admired Bernie Sanders for the passion he brings to the political discourse, and to be honest, had any candidate other than Hillary ran against him, he would have been my first choice. I hope over time that you and other Sanders supporters will join our cause to build on the progress that President Obama has started. I'm sure it'll take you time, but if you really want a President who will look out for the middle class, protect our environment, bolster our economy, provide opportunities for everyone, champion the civil rights of women and minorities, Hillary is your gal. If you want a candidate who will make our country the laughingstock of the entire planet, Trump is your guy.

Great post! I couldn't have said it better myself.
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« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2016, 01:05:58 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.

If you support a Jewish candidate, you really shouldn't invoke Hitler or compare anyone to Hitler. Nobody, not even Trump, is as bad as Hitler, and he's not going to be as bad as Hitler should, heaven forbid, he miraculously defeat her in the general election. He's not going to round up Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities and put them in gas chambers and ovens like Hitler did. Comparing the probable 2016 general election between Trump and Clinton to the 1932 German election that produced Adolf Hitler, coming from someone who supports Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is insulting to Jews and all other minorities that were targeted and murdered by the Nazis.

You can't definitively say that until after he's dead and buried.

As long as he's walking around, haranguing crowds and ranting about how minorities cause all the problems, Donald is still quite able to turn out like Hitler.
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« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2016, 01:07:19 AM »

Instead of letting the Wall Street politburo bully their way into the White House, the Bernie campaign should shut down the Democratic convention unless the party nominates Bernie.

Fortunately Bernie Sanders is not bomkers, so he will not do that. He did his job - what he came in the race to do (winning was never part of the plan, aside from perhaps the most fevered dreams). He reinvigorated the Left of the Democratic Party. He questioned certain orthodoxies. And he promoted a spirited internal debate. It was a very good run.
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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2016, 01:07:24 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....

Wow, a bit ironic for a person supporting a Jew to make an anti-Semitic post.

Yes, it's a horrible post, but I don't see anything anti-Semitic about it.

If you support a Jewish candidate, you really shouldn't invoke Hitler or compare anyone to Hitler. Nobody, not even Trump, is as bad as Hitler, and he's not going to be as bad as Hitler should, heaven forbid, he miraculously defeat her in the general election. He's not going to round up Mexicans, Muslims, and other minorities and put them in gas chambers and ovens like Hitler did. Comparing the probable 2016 general election between Trump and Clinton to the 1932 German election that produced Adolf Hitler, coming from someone who supports Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is insulting to Jews and all other minorities that were targeted and murdered by the Nazis.

Give it time.
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« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2016, 01:09:42 AM »

Instead of letting the Wall Street politburo bully their way into the White House, the Bernie campaign should shut down the Democratic convention unless the party nominates Bernie.

Fortunately Bernie Sanders is not bomkers, so he will not do that. He did his job - what he came in the race to do (winning was never part of the plan, aside from perhaps the most fevered dreams). He reinvigorated the Left of the Democratic Party. He questioned certain orthodoxies. And he promoted a spirited internal debate. It was a very good run.

Bernie ran to win. The odds aren't looking very good for that, but that was the plan. It wasn't so that Hillary could triangulate slightly to the left in the primary and then revert to her usual 3rd-wayness later. That was not the plan.
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« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2016, 01:36:27 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....
Hillary would be more comparable to the SPD than Hindenburg, who would be the GOP establishment to Trump's NSDAP. Sanders is Thalmann of course.

The SDP supported Hindenburg in 1932.

So you're basically saying Hillary will be elected over Trump in 2016, but after less than a year, she'll make him her VP and resign?

TOTALLY MAKES SENSE!
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« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2016, 01:40:51 AM »

Instead of letting the Wall Street politburo bully their way into the White House, the Bernie campaign should shut down the Democratic convention unless the party nominates Bernie.

Fortunately Bernie Sanders is not bomkers, so he will not do that. He did his job - what he came in the race to do (winning was never part of the plan, aside from perhaps the most fevered dreams). He reinvigorated the Left of the Democratic Party. He questioned certain orthodoxies. And he promoted a spirited internal debate. It was a very good run.

He can still take it all the way to the convention, give a speech and try to push through platform changes. No reason not too. There's always the chance Hillary self-immolates and he becomes the nominee anyway.
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« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2016, 01:45:20 AM »

I've had it with lesser of 2 evils. You know, the lesser of 2 evils won the 1932 German Presidential election....
Hillary would be more comparable to the SPD than Hindenburg, who would be the GOP establishment to Trump's NSDAP. Sanders is Thalmann of course.

The SDP supported Hindenburg in 1932.

So you're basically saying Hillary will be elected over Trump in 2016, but after less than a year, she'll make him her VP and resign?

TOTALLY MAKES SENSE!

It wasn't meant as a comparison to the 2016 Presidential election, just an example of how lesser of two evils can go horribly wrong.
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« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2016, 02:10:35 AM »

Just a friendly piece of advice: Hillary would be much more likely to repay a debt of gratitude to progressives who turn out to vote for her in spite of their personal feelings than whomever the GOP might nominate. Do you think Hillary would have been made SoS if her voters had defected or refused to vote en masse?
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