Republican MI/MS/ID/HI election results thread (first results @8pm ET)

[Maxwell]

I've got a great reason why people are rejecting Rubio, and it is from a HOME STATE NEWSPAPER

[win win]

Explain to me how Marco Rubio cant even  win a state like this?

People just really, really do not want Marco Rubio. I'm not sure there is a good explanation for why.

My personal reason are 1) he is way underqualified to even be a senator 2) he is lazy and 3) seems like he only works for 5 billionaires

[Dr. Arch]

Hawaii is looking for Trump as Idaho did for Cruz.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Final results for that giant Honolulu site:

Trump 327
Cruz 285
Rubio 82
Kasich 47
Carson 6
Bush 1

That's it then.

[Dr. Arch]

Final results for that giant Honolulu site:

Trump 327
Cruz 285
Rubio 82
Kasich 47
Carson 6
Bush 1

That's it then.

GG

[cinyc]

Final results for that giant Honolulu site:

Trump 327
Cruz 285
Rubio 82
Kasich 47
Carson 6
Bush 1

Do you know the name of this site or what the HD was?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Trump is taking Hawaii too? I feel numbed by sadness. Is this real life?

Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality! Open your eyes, look up to the sky and see...

[jimrtex]

Anyone have a point of reference to compare this to other primaries?

6% of dems is probably irrelevant but seems a bit high, especially considering there is a dem primary going on at the same time.

In an ordinary Michgan primary, you are handed a ballot for both parties, and go in a voting booth and select your ballot in secret. So some voters are accustomed to gaming the system.

The DNC in particular demands that voters publicly identify with the party. In past elections, they have not allowed the use of the Michigan primary for selection of delegates. Now you have to make a public declaration.

This was a pure presidential primary, no other contests on the ballot, so some voters will have no problem asking for a Republican ballot, and then telling a pollster they are a "Democrat". Most self-described independents lean fairly strongly one way or the other, so some of those "independents" vote Republican all the time, and probably have picked the Republican primary ballot the last 10 elections. Of course there will be other "independents" who never vote in the primary, but almost always pick the Republican candidates in the general election.

If a "Democrat" was actively trying to interfere in the Republican primary, they would probably tell a pollster that they were "independent".

[Bigby]

Hawaii loves TRUMB.

[musicblind]

Explain to me how Marco Rubio cant even  win a state like this?

People just really, really do not want Marco Rubio. I'm not sure there is a good explanation for why.

My personal reason are 1) he is way underqualified to even be a senator 2) he is lazy and 3) seems like he only works for 5 billionaires

I guess those are indeed very good reasons, but wouldn't Cruz and Trump each fall into at least one of those categories?

It just seems that, while Rubio isn't awesome, he would be more desirable to the general electorate than Trump or Cruz. At least on paper.

[Dr. Arch]

The funny thing is that Trump IS one of the billionaires for which politicians work for in the current system, and his supporters think he's outside the establishment, when he's the very epitome of it. Not that there aren't a ton of other reasons why NOT to support him.

[musicblind]

I would never tell someone they are wrong to vote their heart, and clearly Trump is in the heart of many American's.

I just have this feeling that the world is laughing at us right now.

[Dr. Arch]

I would never tell someone they are wrong to vote their heart, and clearly Trump is in the heart of many American's.

I just have this feeling that the world is laughing at us right now.

They are wrong in this very exceptional case. Period.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Calling Trump supporters "wrong", "idiots", etc., only hardens their support for Trump and further disenfranchises them. You want to win over them? Don't belittle them.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Cruz creeping upwards a little, Rubio sinking even further. Trump still dominating.

[Matty]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Calling Trump supporters "wrong", "idiots", etc., only hardens their support for Trump and further disenfranchises them. You want to win over them? Don't belittle them.

I can understand the idea, but the reality is harder.

They're voting for a liar who makes his hats in Mexico. I don't know how to engage with anyone willing to do that.

[Maxwell]

ugh get away fak u ted

[Dr. Arch]

Calling Trump supporters "wrong", "idiots", etc., only hardens their support for Trump and further disenfranchises them. You want to win over them? Don't belittle them.

I acknowledge that attacking them personally is belittling and would not serve anyone well, but criticizing a position/idea by calling it wrong is not belittling. It's a part of discourse, and they are welcome to challenge me on it. I've laid out my positions on why the position is wrong over a number of posts. A huge problem nowadays is that people take critical approaches towards ideology as personal attacks, and that is simply not the case.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I'm very far left so I honestly don't understand why anyone would support a Republican (not just Trump but any Republican) but my brother until recently was a Trump supporter.  He has finished grad school, has a 6 digit salary and lives in a very liberal city, but he told me that at least Trump has done a few things in his life unlike all the other candidates.
I then told him about the whole birth certificate story and his comments about Mexicans, and he realized that he didn't know enough about Trump.  But I'm sure there are a lot of other people out there like my brother.

[Dr. Arch]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

How is he liberal exactly? His positions are incredibly vague and could be tagged as extremely conservative as well. His Foreign policy is certainly NOT liberal; it's not even moderate. I am even willing to venture to say that Reagan and maybe even H.W. would be liberals by today's GOP standards.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

How is he liberal exactly? His positions are incredibly vague and could be tagged as extremely conservative as well. His Foreign policy is certainly NOT liberal; it's not even moderate. I am even willing to venture to say that Reagan and maybe even H.W. would be liberals by today's GOP standards.

His FP is certainly less neoconservative than the generic GOP position on FP at least

[Matty]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

How is he liberal exactly? His positions are incredibly vague and could be tagged as extremely conservative as well. His Foreign policy is certainly NOT liberal; it's not even moderate. I am even willing to venture to say that Reagan and maybe even H.W. would be liberals by today's GOP standards.

Trump has changed due to primary season, but I think it is reasonable to think that

A) Trump does not care much about abortion and gay marriage
B) genuinely thinks the government needs to be more involved in healthcare
C) his position on trade is similar to a generic democrat's from the 80s
D) opposes nation building
E) doens't want to cut entitlements, and rarely brings up welfare

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

How is he liberal exactly? His positions are incredibly vague and could be tagged as extremely conservative as well. His Foreign policy is certainly NOT liberal; it's not even moderate. I am even willing to venture to say that Reagan and maybe even H.W. would be liberals by today's GOP standards.

Trump by virtue of being a Jacksonian as opposed to a Neocon is a world more moderate than Dubya on foreign policy.

[Dr. Arch]

trump is the most liberal republican to be nominated since ford and democrats/liberals are terrified.

I do not get it. I just don't.

How is he liberal exactly? His positions are incredibly vague and could be tagged as extremely conservative as well. His Foreign policy is certainly NOT liberal; it's not even moderate. I am even willing to venture to say that Reagan and maybe even H.W. would be liberals by today's GOP standards.

His FP is certainly less neoconservative than the generic GOP position on FP at least

Ban all Muslims, build a wall, "bomb bomb bomb"...