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« on: February 28, 2016, 05:46:40 PM »

I was just thinking, if Trump realigns the parties could the GOP perhaps revert to being a protectionist party in the same way that it was in the nineteenth century? Perhaps going forward we have something similar to the nineteenth century political coalitions (albeit with different regional bases) where Republicans become the more nativist and protectionist party and Democrats are more pro-free trade and have a base of support with recent immigrants with a smaller left-wing.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 05:52:01 PM »

The Democrats won't change, because they don't have an urgency to change. Their opposition to the free market will mean that they will continue to oppose free trade, and Republicans will simply make an alliance with them. It really fits well with being protectionist on immigration as well, but Democrats won't change.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 05:59:48 PM »

The Democrats won't change, because they don't have an urgency to change. Their opposition to the free market will mean that they will continue to oppose free trade, and Republicans will simply make an alliance with them. It really fits well with being protectionist on immigration as well, but Democrats won't change.

But Wall Street lobbyists aren't going anywhere so if they don't find Republicans very friendly to there agenda anymore they'd probably just increase there grip on the Democrats.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2016, 06:37:15 PM »

What if the Dem base revolts against wall street influence as well? That'll be increasingly likely in the coming years. Clinton has already taken increasingly protectionist positions over the course of the campaign.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 06:39:18 PM »

What if the Dem base revolts against wall street influence as well? That'll be increasingly likely in the coming years. Clinton has already taken increasingly protectionist positions over the course of the campaign.

I'd hope so, maybe if both parties do we could finally bring the neoliberal consensus to a death knell and reregulate Wall Street.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2016, 08:32:26 PM »

The Democrats won't change, because they don't have an urgency to change. Their opposition to the free market will mean that they will continue to oppose free trade, and Republicans will simply make an alliance with them. It really fits well with being protectionist on immigration as well, but Democrats won't change.

But Wall Street lobbyists aren't going anywhere so if they don't find Republicans very friendly to there agenda anymore they'd probably just increase there grip on the Democrats.

So Trump is inching Republicans the tiniest bit left on fiscal issues; so what?  The Democrats have been sprinting there.  Wall Street will obviously try to influence both parties and will pick the lesser of two evils in such a scenario, and I guarantee you that will continue to be the GOP.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2016, 01:21:28 AM »

I was just thinking, if Trump realigns the parties could the GOP perhaps revert to being a protectionist party in the same way that it was in the nineteenth century? Perhaps going forward we have something similar to the nineteenth century political coalitions (albeit with different regional bases) where Republicans become the more nativist and protectionist party and Democrats are more pro-free trade and have a base of support with recent immigrants with a smaller left-wing.

No I don't think so.  Companies like ones owned and run by Donald Trump have sent too many jobs overseas to see this happen.  Our party is better off abolishing income taxes and lowering corporate taxes in order to bring back jobs.  Those are the only realistic policies considering how much higher our wages are compared to the countries jobs are being sent to.  Replace the income tax with the VAT, prices will be the same, but a chunk of what we pay goes towards the federal government in the form of the VAT.  This allows the economy to grow independently of the government.  Lowering corporate taxes will stop companies from wanting to leave to a degree. He's better off adjusting taxes then using his iron fist which will only lead to chasing away business.  As for Americans having jobs, too many illegal immigrants have sweated blood building things like the Trump Towers to back down now.
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