AL/OK-Monmouth: TRUMP ahead, Clinton destroys in AL, down narrowly in OK
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« on: February 29, 2016, 11:41:41 AM »
« edited: February 29, 2016, 11:44:30 AM by Ebsy »

Likely GOP:

Alabama:

TRUMP: 42
Rubio: 19
Cruz: 16
Carson: 11
Kasich: 6

Oklahoma:

TRUMP: 35
Cruz: 23
Rubio: 22
Kasich: 8
Carson: 7

Likely Dem:

Alabama:

Clinton: 71
Sanders: 23

Oklahoma

Clinton: 43
Sanders: 48

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/493ca395-91a3-466e-83f0-8c006dbfaa1e.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 11:47:27 AM »

Sanders might actually pull off Oklahoma. Wow.
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 11:49:09 AM »

I'm screaming at Sanders winning Oklahoma and losing Massachusetts. Hillarious.
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 11:50:46 AM »

5% in Oklahoma - This is great. Could actually win! He had his best campaign rally yesterday in Oklahoma, it was a the most noisy, cheery & participative crowd I have seen - sometimes like a WWE crowd - looked more like a rock concert - Gives me hope!

Alabama is very bad. I think 30% is sadly the best Sanders can do. He will end 20-30%, another South Carolina type result.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 11:52:26 AM »

They only have the Alabama poll at 53% black. It'll be much higher. Oklahoma seems right at 75% white.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 11:55:46 AM »

Oklahoma confuses me. I fully expect Alabama to be a bigger Clinton win than South Carolina, though.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 11:56:01 AM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 11:56:57 AM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?

They are voting for Trump and what's left is true believers.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 11:57:03 AM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?

More like hating Hillary. Obama only got 57% there last time running basically unopposed.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2016, 12:11:45 PM »

5% in Oklahoma - This is great. Could actually win! He had his best campaign rally yesterday in Oklahoma, it was a the most noisy, cheery & participative crowd I have seen - sometimes like a WWE crowd - looked more like a rock concert - Gives me hope!

Alabama is very bad. I think 30% is sadly the best Sanders can do. He will end 20-30%, another South Carolina type result.
Shouldn't you be sad right now? How does a 5% lead in Oklahoma make up for such an ass whooping in Alabama?
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2016, 12:22:40 PM »

Sanders trails with Alabama whites by 22 points, leads with Oklahoma whites by 7 points.
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2016, 12:29:15 PM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?

More likely they vote for the white male.
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2016, 12:46:45 PM »

5% in Oklahoma - This is great. Could actually win! He had his best campaign rally yesterday in Oklahoma, it was a the most noisy, cheery & participative crowd I have seen - sometimes like a WWE crowd - looked more like a rock concert - Gives me hope!

Alabama is very bad. I think 30% is sadly the best Sanders can do. He will end 20-30%, another South Carolina type result.
Shouldn't you be sad right now? How does a 5% lead in Oklahoma make up for such an ass whooping in Alabama?

His supporters get to say Bernie won 4-5 states and label him the comeback kid. Followed by wins in KS, NE and ME next weekend.
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2016, 12:53:46 PM »

5% in Oklahoma - This is great. Could actually win! He had his best campaign rally yesterday in Oklahoma, it was a the most noisy, cheery & participative crowd I have seen - sometimes like a WWE crowd - looked more like a rock concert - Gives me hope!

Alabama is very bad. I think 30% is sadly the best Sanders can do. He will end 20-30%, another South Carolina type result.
Shouldn't you be sad right now? How does a 5% lead in Oklahoma make up for such an ass whooping in Alabama?

His supporters get to say Bernie won 4-5 states and label him the comeback kid. Followed by wins in KS, NE and ME next weekend.

The fact that Hillary would racket up a ton more delegates makes me ok with the race lasting a bit longer. Sanders will stay in till at least the end of April. And that's fine... a competitive primary in WI drives up Dem turnout for Supreme Court. Could help in other states as well.
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2016, 12:58:35 PM »

5% in Oklahoma - This is great. Could actually win! He had his best campaign rally yesterday in Oklahoma, it was a the most noisy, cheery & participative crowd I have seen - sometimes like a WWE crowd - looked more like a rock concert - Gives me hope!

Alabama is very bad. I think 30% is sadly the best Sanders can do. He will end 20-30%, another South Carolina type result.
Shouldn't you be sad right now? How does a 5% lead in Oklahoma make up for such an ass whooping in Alabama?

His supporters get to say Bernie won 4-5 states and label him the comeback kid. Followed by wins in KS, NE and ME next weekend.

And then a clean sweep by Clinton the week after that.
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« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2016, 01:09:53 PM »

i actually think Clinton might win Kansas; she's invested heavily there while Sanders has not. Also, she'll win Louisiana in a landslide, which would probably offset any losses in Nebraska and Maine.
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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2016, 01:17:34 PM »

i actually think Clinton might win Kansas; she's invested heavily there while Sanders has not. Also, she'll win Louisiana in a landslide, which would probably offset any losses in Nebraska and Maine.

Has she? I haven't seen anything about her investment there. I'm just hoping she can hold Sanders within 5-10 points in the caucus states. She can't afford to allow Sanders to win by 20-30 points in CO and MN.
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« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2016, 01:33:58 PM »

i actually think Clinton might win Kansas; she's invested heavily there while Sanders has not. Also, she'll win Louisiana in a landslide, which would probably offset any losses in Nebraska and Maine.

Has she? I haven't seen anything about her investment there. I'm just hoping she can hold Sanders within 5-10 points in the caucus states. She can't afford to allow Sanders to win by 20-30 points in CO and MN.

With the kind of numbers she is posting in the black belt, sure she can (not that I think Sanders will win the caucus states by those kind of margins anyway - if he even wins them at all).
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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2016, 05:05:19 PM »

LOL at Oklahoma. You guys can have that one. Tongue Who did Bushie endorse?
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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2016, 07:32:18 PM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?

More likely they vote for the white male.

Yawn. Time to think of something new.

Yeah, who would ever make the claim that a state's population often votes based on the gender of the candidates!?
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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2016, 07:46:58 PM »

What's up with conservadems in Oklahoma liking Sanders?

Let's dispel with this fiction that the Democratic primary has anything to do with ideology.
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2016, 07:56:34 PM »

I wonder what the Dem. OK results would look like if Webb was still in the race.
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2016, 09:11:11 PM »

Oklahoma confuses me. I fully expect Alabama to be a bigger Clinton win than South Carolina, though.

I'll explain Oklahoma - a lot of the moderate/conservadem voters LOVE populism. Sanders does very well with these voters, and there is a sizable chunk that still remain in the party. In addition, in an open primary they would probably vote for TRUMP, but because Oklahoma is semi-closed, they stick with their main choice - BERNIE.

They also hate Obama, but less said on that, the better.
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