SC-PPP: Trump 35, Rubio/Cruz 18, Hillary leads 55/34
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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2016, 08:49:26 PM »

Good to see Bernie is still gaining ground!
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2016, 09:01:21 PM »

With the current poll trends, is it possible that Trump wins bigger than Clinton does?
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2016, 09:02:23 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2016, 09:04:28 PM by Maxwell »

I don't know why people are shocked Trump's comments didn't hurt him, like all of his other comments didn't hurt him. At this point people should just stop expecting it.

also wtf how is Rubs in second? Does nothing matter anymore?
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2016, 09:11:51 PM »

Heh, so ARG gives Clinton a huge lead with whites, YouGov gives Sanders a huge lead with whites and PPP has them tied among whites.

Honestly, PPP's numbers seem the most believable to me but they have a lot to prove after their Democratic and GOP flops in Iowa.
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2016, 09:21:16 PM »

I see the media's rehabilitation of Rubio is working. It's just ridiculous. The guy is a total lightweight.
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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2016, 09:41:19 PM »

Heh, so ARG gives Clinton a huge lead with whites, YouGov gives Sanders a huge lead with whites and PPP has them tied among whites.

Honestly, PPP's numbers seem the most believable to me but they have a lot to prove after their Democratic and GOP flops in Iowa.

I wonder if PPP stopped being a total Hillary hack. Hillary up 21 points is actually believable.
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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »

I don't know why people are shocked Trump's comments didn't hurt him, like all of his other comments didn't hurt him. At this point people should just stop expecting it.

also wtf how is Rubs in second? Does nothing matter anymore?
Those two statements totally aren't contradictory. 
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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2016, 09:58:06 PM »

I see the media's rehabilitation of Rubio is working. It's just ridiculous. The guy is a total lightweight.
He's probably just going to self destruct again.  He can't handle the pressure.
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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2016, 10:08:29 PM »

Blacks are not buying the old white man's schtick. Apparently we don't want free stuff or seek it out.
Why bring up race, gender, and age? Do you have something against old white men?!?! Shocked

TRUMP will win by a bigger margin than clinton
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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2016, 10:11:24 PM »

If Trump only loses like 2% for saying Bush failed us on 9/11, then he's golden.
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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2016, 10:17:08 PM »

If Trump only loses like 2% for saying Bush failed us on 9/11, then he's golden.

His base is completely unshakeable.  That's going to be the biggest challenge for any candidate who wants to overcome his lead, especially if the race doesn't quickly winnow down to 2 people. 
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2016, 10:26:12 PM »

For the record changes since the last PPP poll in november (I believe)

Trump: +10
Kasich: +7
Rubio: +5
Cruz: +3
Jeb: -1
Carson: -14
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2016, 10:27:00 PM »

Blacks are not buying the old white man's schtick. Apparently we don't want free stuff or seek it out.

Wait, you're black??

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Blacks are not buying the old white man's schtick. Apparently we don't want free stuff or seek it out.
Why bring up race, gender, and age? Do you have something against old white men?!?! Shocked

TRUMP will win by a bigger margin than clinton

I brought it up because Sanders supporters claimed that Sanders would win blacks once they learned about his plans for free stuff.
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2016, 11:06:12 PM »

Time to pack your stuff Jeb. It was fun while it lasted.
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2016, 01:14:05 AM »

I don't know why people are shocked Trump's comments didn't hurt him, like all of his other comments didn't hurt him. At this point people should just stop expecting it.

also wtf how is Rubs in second? Does nothing matter anymore?
Those two statements totally aren't contradictory. 

Huh, guess you're right. Maybe TRUMP's destroying of media narrative is having some backlash effects in favor of Rubs.
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« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2016, 01:46:52 AM »

PPP has been awful the last few cycles incl. in IA (where they were too pro-Hillary and then they were even so embarassed that they skipped NH), so yeah, I wouldn't put much stock into these numbers.

Sanders will likely finish above 40%, maybe as high as 45-46%.

You've heard it here first.
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« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2016, 02:23:14 AM »

33% Swing for Sanders, wow. I still think Sanders will lead the white vote & not tie as here. Young voter turnout will be higher than here.

So given PPP realistically, noway is Clinton leading more than 15%. I am still optimistic that with a victory in Nevada, Sanders can get the loss under 10%.  If he manages to get 40% of the black votes nationally, Clinton is done. He does not need to win but atleast improve to a competitive position
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« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2016, 02:37:10 AM »

Sanders will likely finish above 40%, maybe as high as 45-46%.

Nah, he'll never get that high.
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« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2016, 02:42:54 AM »

don't count out Martin O'Malley in SC.
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« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2016, 03:49:44 AM »

LOL Jeb! JEBMENTUM!
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« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2016, 10:03:38 AM »

Here’s the full release:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf

whites
Clinton 46%
Sanders 46%

blacks
Clinton 63%
Sanders 23%

GOP 4-way race:

Trump 39%
Rubio 21%
Cruz 20%
Bush 12%

3-way race:

Trump 40%
Rubio 28%
Cruz 22%

2-way:

Trump 50%
Bush 40%

Rubio 47%
Cruz 37%

Trump 48%
Cruz 38%

Trump 46%
Rubio 45%

Should note that in the close Rubio vs. Trump head-to-head, at least a plurality of every other candidate’s supporters side with Rubio, even supporters of “outsiders” Cruz and Carson.

fav / unfav % among their own party:

Dems

Clinton 66/22% for +44%
Sanders 52/27% for +25%

GOP

Carson 68/23% for +45%
Rubio 58/32% for +26%
Kasich 52/29% for +23%
Trump 50/43% for +7%
Bush 41/43% for -2%
Cruz 42/48% for -6%
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« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2016, 10:14:03 AM »

If those favorables are accurate for Cruz, stick a fork in him. He's done.
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« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2016, 10:43:54 AM »

Here’s the full release:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf

whites
Clinton 46%
Sanders 46%

blacks
Clinton 63%
Sanders 23%

GOP 4-way race:

Trump 39%
Rubio 21%
Cruz 20%
Bush 12%

3-way race:

Trump 40%
Rubio 28%
Cruz 22%

2-way:

Trump 50%
Bush 40%

Rubio 47%
Cruz 37%

Trump 48%
Cruz 38%

Trump 46%
Rubio 45%


Should note that in the close Rubio vs. Trump head-to-head, at least a plurality of every other candidate’s supporters side with Rubio, even supporters of “outsiders” Cruz and Carson.

fav / unfav % among their own party:

Dems

Clinton 66/22% for +44%
Sanders 52/27% for +25%

GOP

Carson 68/23% for +45%
Rubio 58/32% for +26%
Kasich 52/29% for +23%
Trump 50/43% for +7%
Bush 41/43% for -2%
Cruz 42/48% for -6%


It's numbers like those that will keep him in the race.
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« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2016, 11:29:35 AM »

If those favorables are accurate for Cruz, stick a fork in him. He's done.

Cruz never left the station. He's wasting his time staying in the race. He won't win anywhere aside from maybe a few caucus states and has no path to actually winning the nomination.
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« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2016, 01:25:45 PM »

Blacks are not buying the old white man's schtick. Apparently we don't want free stuff or seek it out.

Plenty of people of all races want free stuff, Whites most of all, and it's not like Hillary isn't offering the exact same message.  It's called running as a Democrat.
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