Clinton should keep her delegates at the convention.

[Beet]

In 2008, they forced her to fold her delegates into Obama's, so it was a unanimous nomination on the first ballot. In 2016, Clinton should hold as many delegates as possible and take her first ballot votes. That way, at least her supporters will be counted this time.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

At least we won't have that Florida and Michigan mess to argue about this time.

[Ljube]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

[Beet]

At least we won't have that Florida and Michigan mess to argue about this time.

Wow, I actually agree with you on something.

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I will be very disappointed if she does.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

LOL.

I'm voting for Sanders even I'll admit she's still the heavy favorite to win.

Who won amongst the candidates who won Iowa and New Hampshire in 2008?

[Blue3]

No she won't.

Her rationale is based on stopping the Republicans, and getting the possible done.

That would hurt a unified party, and hurt their chances in the election.

Obama-Clinton was much, much, much, much nastier. Bernie and Hillary, despite whining on both sides, are running a remarkable positive campaign.

[Beet]

No she won't.

Her rationale is based on stopping the Republicans, and getting the possible done.

That would hurt a unified party, and hurt their chances in the election.

Obama-Clinton was much, much, much, much nastier. Bernie and Hillary, despite whining on both sides, are running a remarkable positive campaign.

I just want people who voted for her to have their votes recognized on an official convention ballot.

[IceSpear]

Sorry Beet, but I'm gonna have to bump this once Hillary becomes the nominee. It'll be bittersweet for you though, right?

[Ljube]

Sorry Beet, but I'm gonna have to bump this once Hillary becomes the nominee. It'll be bittersweet for you though, right?

IceSpear, it's over. Your Snow Queen melted.
Just face the facts and deal with it!

[IceSpear]

Sorry Beet, but I'm gonna have to bump this once Hillary becomes the nominee. It'll be bittersweet for you though, right?

IceSpear, it's over. Your Snow Queen melted.
Just face the facts and deal with it!

Yes, it's over for her because she lost in her opponent's backyard, and her opponent's 2nd most demographically favorable state.

See you on Super Tuesday.

[Ebsy]

lmao are we calling the nomination for Sanders on Feb. 9?

[OSR stands with Israel]

No she won't.

Her rationale is based on stopping the Republicans, and getting the possible done.

That would hurt a unified party, and hurt their chances in the election.

Obama-Clinton was much, much, much, much nastier. Bernie and Hillary, despite whining on both sides, are running a remarkable positive campaign.

But the difference was that the republicans were in the white house for the last 8 years in 2008 so at that time  the urgency was much greater

[emailking]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lol

[Ljube]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

[Ebsy]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

[Ljube]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

No, I mean after the actual defeat. Only political nerds care about the polls. Real people care about real election results.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

2016 RCP average: Bernie +13.3.
Current results: Bernie +20.8
That's 7.5 points worse for Hillary than the polls

2008 RCP average: Obama + 8.3
Actual 2008 results: Hillary + 2.6
That's 10.9 points better for Hillary than the polls

Results - polls swung by 18.4 points.

[Ebsy]

No, I mean after the actual defeat. Only political nerds care about the polls. Real people care about real election results.

So you are basing your projection off of New Hampshire's sterling record of choosing the Democratic nominee.

[cwt]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

The farther ahead you go with polls, the less reliable they are.

The polls of SC you're looking at don't take in to account that Sanders won NH by 20%. That amounts to a ton of coverage in the media and more people seeing there's a legitimate option other than Hillary.

[Ebsy]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

The farther ahead you go with polls, the less reliable they are.

The polls of SC you're looking at don't take in to account that Sanders won NH by 20%. That amounts to a ton of coverage in the media and more people seeing there's a legitimate option other than Hillary.

There are going to be polls of South Carolina between now and primary day.

[emailking]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

No, I mean after the actual defeat. Only political nerds care about the polls. Real people care about real election results.

The polls tell you what "real people" care about.

Sure, they could tighten. But it's not looking "increasingly likely" that Hillary will lose when so far reality has unfolded roughly in line with the polls we've been seeing for a while now.

[cwt]

It looks increasingly likely, after the shellacking tonight, that she will release her delegates before convention.

If you lived in a bubble and hadn't seen any polling from South Carolina, other southern states, and nationally, it might look like that yeah.

Polling means squat after the rout of the magnitude Hillary suffered tonight.
Watch the polls in the coming days...

You mean the defeat that was totally in line with the polls?

The farther ahead you go with polls, the less reliable they are.

The polls of SC you're looking at don't take in to account that Sanders won NH by 20%. That amounts to a ton of coverage in the media and more people seeing there's a legitimate option other than Hillary.

There are going to be polls of South Carolina between now and primary day.

Of course, and they'll probably be accurate. We haven't seen them yet, though.

[bedstuy]

When Hillary is President, she's going to cover drugs for hysterical old women, solving this problem.

[IceSpear]

Sorry Beet, but I'm gonna have to bump this once Hillary becomes the nominee. It'll be bittersweet for you though, right?