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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2016, 01:27:55 PM »

This is a poll of "votes" that will not actually be counted, right? What is counted is number of delegates elected, where Bernie will end up with a lot of wasted votes out of his troika of college town counties. Bernie would be well advised to have his people in each precinct count the raw votes and release them to the press.

Is that even legal?

Why not? It is not anything official, it is just a report of the number of votes for each candidate in each precinct, as opposed to delegate totals, which are not otherwise officially counted.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2016, 01:42:12 PM »

Its probably closer to a 1 or 2 point lead and Clinton is still in this. 
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2016, 02:27:37 PM »

Quite scary to think what will happen if Clinton loses this state.
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2016, 02:33:21 PM »

You'd think there would be a 'follow the crowd' effect on the pollsters in the final days, as occurred in the general election here last year. But apparently not.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2016, 02:53:49 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2016, 02:59:52 PM »

Precisely what Hockey Dude says, Clinton will get a split in delegates, despite losing in run up to NV & SC. Sanders may win some states afterall.
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2016, 03:16:00 PM »

Any momentum that Sanders may have coming out of Iowa will be not only halted, but utterly annihilated by his landslide loss to Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.

Nice signature, Clinton down by 8.3 and wins by 2.6 to beat the polls by 10.9? Perhaps you should also take into consideration Sanders' 11.9 point lead in the polling averages and also, you know, the fact that many more people despise Clinton this time around. Quit spewing your "my opinion is an inevitable fact" garbage and let the results themselves prove everyone wrong. It's quite obnoxious how obsessive you are getting over this prediction of yours.
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2016, 04:08:34 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2016, 04:13:11 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.

End ur gey
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2016, 04:18:04 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.

End ur gey

And terribly wrong.  I'd look up the article, but i have a job.  Go find it. 

Prepare for a thrashing.
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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2016, 04:24:46 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.

Quinn has leaned Sanders all cycle. FOX had her up 6 yesterday. Will be interesting to see Monmouth, PPP and Selzer. I guess both sides can look at the polls and argue in their favor :-)
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2016, 04:26:16 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.

End ur gey

And terribly wrong.  I'd look up the article, but i have a job.  Go find it. 

Prepare for a thrashing.

wow persuasive
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2016, 04:52:13 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.
Still, you seem to have little understanding of delegate apportionment.

End ur gey

And terribly wrong.  I'd look up the article, but i have a job.  Go find it. 

Prepare for a thrashing.

wow persuasive

Its a gift.
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2016, 05:07:01 PM »

A profoundly SMASHING result for the Senator from Vermont. 

@Torie.  And Clinton is going to be cursed to settle for a 1-1 split in delegates out of many precincts in corn country even if there is a 60-40 margin in raw vote.  Obama certainly didn't suffer a terrible fate due to "troikas of college towns".  Reported for trolling.

What a pleasure it is to have you drop by and share your charming wisdom with us all. Apparently Daily Kos is trolling too. So it's Daily Kos, me and you, the trolling trio for all to view.
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2016, 06:16:42 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2016, 06:26:43 PM by Ebsy »

Hockeydude, since you seem to require a lesson in caucus math, I'll elaborate.

Out of a total of 1780 precincts, there are only 134 precincts which award 2 delegates. This is only 7.5% of all precincts, but when you look at the delegate value, it falls to only 1.2% of all county convention delegates awarded, which is way too small to matter. The caucuses will be won or lost in Des Moines and the small towns all over Iowa, not in the few scattered precincts with 2 or 3 delegates at stake.
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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2016, 06:32:15 PM »

Hockeydude, since you seem to require a lesson in caucus math, I'll elaborate.

Out of a total of 1780 precincts, there are only 134 precincts which award 2 delegates. This is only 7.5% of all precincts, but when you look at the delegate value, it falls to only 1.2% of all county convention delegates awarded, which is way too small to matter. The caucuses will be won or lost in Des Moines and the small towns all over Iowa, not in the few scattered precincts with 2 or 3 delegates at stake.

Ok, the point is that precincts with smaller delegates totals will tend to make it seem closer.  This can work with 3-4-5-6.. whatever.  There are factors that play to both sides' advantages/disadvantages.  The media is just playing up the "Bernie only has dumb college kids in his corner" thing because it's the media. 
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