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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2016, 11:26:02 AM »

South Carolina Dem. contest, by race…

whites:
Sanders 60%
Clinton 38%

blacks:
Clinton 76%
Sanders 22%


Has the racial divide ever been this large in a primary? I don't even know if Obama and Jackson did this well among blacks.

For reference:

2008 Democratic Primary Exit Poll:
                                
                                BO    HC    JE
43%     White   24   36   40
55%     Black           78    19    2

LOL Edwards.

Bernie is a superstar among blacks compared to him! Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2016, 11:32:20 AM »

South Carolina Dem. contest, by race…

whites:
Sanders 60%
Clinton 38%

blacks:
Clinton 76%
Sanders 22%


Has the racial divide ever been this large in a primary? I don't even know if Obama and Jackson did this well among blacks.

For reference:

2008 Democratic Primary Exit Poll:
                                
                                BO    HC    JE
43%     White   24   36   40
55%     Black           78    19    2

LOL Edwards.

Bernie is a superstar among blacks compared to him! Tongue

To believe I endorsed him twice... yikes.  What a spinster!
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2016, 11:40:13 AM »

These polls are junk. MoEs of 8 to 9 percent? How can CBS publish this?
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2016, 11:55:48 AM »

Uhm, there's another TX CBS/YouGov Poll from the same date that has The Donald leading Cruz by 41-22%: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/qw10jlxsxi/FL_ForRelease_20160124.pdf
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2016, 11:58:20 AM »

Why does the Texas poll have a picture of South Carolina?
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2016, 11:59:28 AM »


That's Florida, not Texas.  Note that the URL says "FL", and the questions include things like:

"How likely is it that you will vote in the 2016 Presidential primary in Florida?"
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2016, 12:10:13 PM »

Why does the Texas poll have a picture of South Carolina?

Because the CBS graphics department fu**ed up.
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2016, 12:11:57 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2016, 12:16:19 PM »


The Huffington Post got it wrong, now they fixed it.
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2016, 12:19:23 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2016, 12:23:01 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.

If the margins of error for these polls are 8-10%, the MOE for sub-samples has to be ridiculously high. I don't think these polls are very good.
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2016, 12:29:32 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.

If the margins of error for these polls are 8-10%, the MOE for sub-samples has to be ridiculously high. I don't think these polls are very good.

Very SOUND methodology.  You should go back to psych! 

Very good news for Mr. Sanders. 
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2016, 12:31:28 PM »


Look Lief, it's already back to tie ...

https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?fips=19

That was fast ...
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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2016, 12:31:55 PM »

Oh gosh, look at the methodology for these polls - all Internet samples and most are "opt in." They follow the same people and re-contact them at regular intervals. I guess this is one of the reasons that the MOE is so high.
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« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2016, 12:34:12 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.

If the margins of error for these polls are 8-10%, the MOE for sub-samples has to be ridiculously high. I don't think these polls are very good.

Very SOUND methodology.  You should go back to psych! 

Very good news for Mr. Sanders. 

I think I'm smart enough to discern a strange sample - which this is. All internet, most "opt-in" and the same people re-contacted at regular intervals. I'm sorry but if you had a background in research you would understand that a 10% MOE is useless.
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2016, 12:39:03 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.

If the margins of error for these polls are 8-10%, the MOE for sub-samples has to be ridiculously high. I don't think these polls are very good.

Very SOUND methodology.  You should go back to psych! 

Very good news for Mr. Sanders. 

Its garbage, dont be a hack.
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2016, 12:44:00 PM »

Good to see that the Blaxicasians in SC are finally getting rid of their Hillary-addiction and are able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, by feeling the BERN.

Can you read? Clinton is getting 76% of the black vote in South Carolina in this poll. If anything, Sanders is solidifying the white vote, which is where his strength is.

If the margins of error for these polls are 8-10%, the MOE for sub-samples has to be ridiculously high. I don't think these polls are very good.

Very SOUND methodology.  You should go back to psych! 

Very good news for Mr. Sanders. 

I think I'm smart enough to discern a strange sample - which this is. All internet, most "opt-in" and the same people re-contacted at regular intervals. I'm sorry but if you had a background in research you would understand that a 10% MOE is useless.

Wowie!  So you can really get a sense of momentum with these polls!

GLORIOUS NEWS!
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2016, 12:53:17 PM »

It seems the Hillary-campaign hacked the YouGov website, because they didn't like today's numbers.
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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2016, 12:54:15 PM »

It seems the Hillary-campaign hacked the YouGov website, because they didn't like today's numbers.

SKETCHY! Not surprising coming from that thuggish campaign. 
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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2016, 12:57:22 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2016, 12:59:44 PM by IceSpear »

It seems the Hillary-campaign hacked the YouGov website, because they didn't like today's numbers.

I'd like these numbers if I was the Hillary campaign.

1) The Iowa result is actually pretty bad for Sanders. YouGov is consistently his best pollster and they showed him up double digits back in September.

2) He's gained nearly nothing among blacks in SC, solidifying her firewall there and countering the conventional wisdom (among Bernie supporters, that is) that they'd turn on Hillary as soon as they learned who Bernie was.

The NH numbers are bad, but I'd imagine that they've already written NH off, privately if not publicly.
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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2016, 01:17:32 PM »

Lol @ Jeb!'s 1% in Iowa and 4% in Florida
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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2016, 01:23:55 PM »

It seems the Hillary-campaign hacked the YouGov website, because they didn't like today's numbers.

I'd like these numbers if I was the Hillary campaign.

1) The Iowa result is actually pretty bad for Sanders. YouGov is consistently his best pollster and they showed him up double digits back in September.

2) He's gained nearly nothing among blacks in SC, solidifying her firewall there and countering the conventional wisdom (among Bernie supporters, that is) that they'd turn on Hillary as soon as they learned who Bernie was.

The NH numbers are bad, but I'd imagine that they've already written NH off, privately if not publicly.

Yeah, YouGov's state polls have a huge pro-Bernie house effect. Sanders +1 in Iowa is not a great result for him here.
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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2016, 01:31:09 PM »

Huckabee at 0% in IA?

Yeesh.
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2016, 07:57:04 PM »

4% in his home state? Jeb is such a loser. At least Guiliani got 15% in his epic fail Florida strategy, and it wasn't his home state .
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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2016, 08:48:39 PM »

Those TX numbers are quite surprising. Anyway, good numbers for Sanders, but IA and NH are still pure Tossups (or tilt Clinton).

How in the hell is NH a pure tossup on the Dem side?
Because vol is a misogynistic wanker.
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