Should states get cong. districts based on how much they pay to the fed govt?

[bgwah]

I don't feel like looking for actual statistics, but let's say;

Delaware pays $2.00 for every $1.00 it receives from the federal government.

North Dakota pays $1.00 for every $2.00 it receives from the federal government.

Both states are similar in population, but Delaware gets twice as many represenatives because it contributes more to the federal government!

[Gabu]

If we were going to do it that way, I would personally put it at absolute amounts, not at relative amounts, because in that case really tiny states would have the same number of congressional districts as huge ones.

That would certainly give you taxation with representation, though.

[bgwah]

I think you're right, Gabu. That's why my example used two states with similar populations.

[Alcon]

Why, in the first place, is North Dakota getting so much money? Because it is poorer?

[No more McShame]

Ummmm, farm subsidies ring a bell?

[Alcon]

Ummmm, farm subsidies ring a bell?

But that much? Geez.

[No more McShame]

that's why it's an asinine policy.

[jimrtex]

Delaware pays $2.00 for every $1.00 it receives from the federal government.

North Dakota pays $1.00 for every $2.00 it receives from the federal government.

Both states are similar in population, but Delaware gets twice as many represenatives because it contributes more to the federal government!

Why not do it on an individual basis?

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State data

New Mexico $1.99
Alaska $1.89
Mississippi $1.83
West Virginia $1.82
North Dakota $1.75
Alabama $1.69
Montana $1.60
Hawaii $1.58
Virginia $1.58
Kentucky $1.52
South Dakota $1.49
Oklahoma $1.48
Arkansas $1.47
Louisiana $1.47
Maine $1.36
South Carolina $1.36
Maryland $1.34
Idaho $1.32
Missouri $1.31
Tennessee $1.29
Arizona $1.23
Utah $1.19
Vermont $1.14
Kansas $1.13
Wyoming $1.13
North Carolina $1.09
Pennsylvania $1.08
Iowa $1.06
Nebraska $1.06
Rhode Island $1.06
Ohio $1.02
Florida $1.00
Oregon $1.00
Texas $0.98
Indiana $0.96
Georgia $0.95
Washington $0.90
Michigan $0.86
Wisconsin $0.84
Deleware $0.82
Colorado $0.80
New York $0.80
California $0.78
Massachusetts $0.78
Illinois $0.73
Minnesota $0.70
Nevada $0.70
Connecticut $0.65
New Hampshire $0.64
New Jersey $0.57

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/topic/92.html

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Why would anyone have a problem with (say) West Virgina, Mississippi and Kentucky getting a lot of Government money?

Oh and the idea is undemocratic. One man, one vote.

[jimrtex]

The Constitution provides for apportioning direct taxes on the basis of population.  That's the reason for the census:

One Man; One Vote; One Dollar.

[minionofmidas]

Yeah...that was the cause of much misery in the 19th century.

[bgwah]

The Constitution provides for apportioning direct taxes on the basis of population.  That's the reason for the census:

One Man; One Vote; One Dollar.

Those socialist-welfare Republican states will be the end of America. The North and West Coast are strong and have held America together, but the rabid lunatic-Republican states will eventually cause America to crash and burn.

We need to put power back to the states that made America the greatest nation on Earth. The South would be nothing but a third world hell hole without the North.

[J. J.]

Why don't we award votes of the anount of taxes paid.  If you pay $100 in federal taxes, you get a vote.  If you pay $10,000 in taxes, you get 100 votes.  I'm of course being sarcastic.

A lot of those states have military bases.

[A18]

How about we give everyone a vote for every dollar they pay in federal taxes?

Oh, that's right. Because the Republicans would have a 2/3 majority in both chambers of Congress, and control the presidency forever.

Most of the cash that goes to Republican states was taken from Republicans in Democrat states. That's the fact, as shown by the exit polls.

And we have a lot of blind fools on this board.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A lot of those states have military bases.

And some have some of the poorest and least developed parts of the U.S in them

[TheresNoMoney]

How about we give everyone a vote for every dollar they pay in federal taxes?

Most of the cash that goes to Republican states was taken from Republicans in Democrat states. That's the fact, as shown by the exit polls.

Where in the world did you get this asanine fact? The exit polls? Ridiculous.

Overall, the blue states support the red states, this is not a surprise to most of us.

[A18]

And Republicans support the Democrats. As shown by the exit polls, and 100 years of United States history.

[TheresNoMoney]

And Republicans support the Democrats. As shown by the exit polls, and 100 years of United States history.

Again ridiculous. Show me your data. I'm betting it doesn't exist.

If the blue states support the red states, then how are Republicans supporting Democrats? So ridiculous.

[A18]

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html

High income earners in the Democrat states vote Republican by substantial margins.

[TheresNoMoney]

Everybody knows the rich vote Republican. Your data says nothing about the actual amount of income taxes paid.

Higher income does not neccessarily equal higher taxes, espeically when a lot of that income is capital gains/dividends.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The relatively rich. Income is relative. Very important to remember that.

[MasterJedi]

Nope!

[A18]

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. The top 10% pays 63.5%.

2001: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdoc.cfm?index=5746&type=1
Recent Figures: http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-soi/01in01ts.xls

[jimrtex]

The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. The top 10% pays 63.5%.

2001: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdoc.cfm?index=5746&type=1
Recent Figures: http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/pub/irs-soi/01in01ts.xls

Would people receiving Social Security or EITC have negative votes?