Sanders vs Trump

[RR1997]

This is a Michael Bloomberg victory scenario:

Michael Bloomberg: 276 EV's
Trump: 140 EV's
Sanders: 122 EV's

Bloomberg would actually steal more votes from Sanders than Trump.

Call me crazy, but if Bloomberg is winning the election, he's also winning Utah. As we all know, Utah hates Trump. Trump is severely underperforming there in both primary and GE polls. Obama also overperformed a lot in Utah during 2008. Utah is not a really conservative state. It's really Republican, but Mormons are known for being quite moderate. Bloomberg is the perfect fit for Utah. He'd do really with Mormons.

I just can't see Bloomberg winning States like Missouri and Arkansas. Bloomberg is a horrible fit for these states, and Trump is great one.

Bloomberg is a pretty bad fit for the south, so I can't see him doing so well in that region.

Bloomberg would really overperform in states like New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and Connecticut.

Bloomberg could easily self-finance a campaign

What do you guys think of this hypothetical scenario?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Bloomberg will not come close to winning, especially in Montana, Maine, New Hampshire and Alaska.

[RR1997]

Bloomberg will not come close to winning, especially in Montana, Maine, New Hampshire and Alaska.

You misunderstood me. I'm not saying that Bloomberg would win. He would only get 10% of the vote at best. Even that's being pretty generous. I'm saying that that is how the map would look like if Bloomberg were to win (which is very unlikely).

[The Other Castro]

Bloomberg will not come close to winning, especially in Montana, Maine, New Hampshire and Alaska.

I'm not saying that Bloomberg would win. He would only get 10% of the vote at best. I'm saying that that is how the map would look like if Bloomberg did win.

By the time, in your scenario, that Sanders and Trump win their nominations, it will be too late for Bloomberg to earn ballot access in enough states to have a meaningful impact.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Tbh Washington and California would be more likely Bloomberg states than primarily rural ones.

[bigedlb]

[Kingpoleon]

352: Fmr. Amb. Jon Huntsman, Jr.(I-UT)/Businessman Greg Orman(I-KS) - 36.9%
93: Businessman Donald Trump(R-NY)/Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - 30.0%
93: Sen. Bernie Sanders(D-VT)/Rep. Keith Ellison(D-MN) - 29.2%

After both mainstream conventions are held, the two traditional candidates tried to use abortion and gay marriage as wedges against the independent Huntsman. In response, Huntsman cited his foreign policy experience and called for "Unity, Not Political Wedges" on the third and final day of America's Convention:
October 5, Columbus Day. With the pro-choice Greg Orman on one side and the anti-SSM Ben Carson on the other side, Huntsman stated "Now, together, united, not divided, not under any parties labels, we will heal America'. I ask for your support in healing America and restoring hope. Now, as our convention ends, I do not say good bye, but see you later - because, when I see you, I expect you to join me and talk to me, and this help me restore hope and heal America. God bless you, God bless New York City, and God bless the United States of America!" Clips of his speech aired in ads and his song entitled "A Change To Come Over America" would help win the election, and the hearts and minds of the American people.

"Thus the Year of the Outsiders ended with the election of a true outsider - the first independent President in nearly 250 years."

[Sumner 1868]

[wolfsblood07]

Gosh, this would be a weird election.  Not sure how it would turn out.  I would vote for Trump because he had excellent positions on immigration and trade.
But neither will be on the ballot in November.  Clinton and Cruz, Rubio or Bush will be the nominees.

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> Democrats win Utah
> Democrats don't win Virginia

Nope, nothing to see here.

[Sumner 1868]

> Democrats win Utah
> Democrats don't win Virginia

Nope, nothing to see here.

Certainly it's no less sensible then the "TRUMP WALL" maps.

[Holmes]

Sanders narrowly wins with the 272 map in the most bitterly polarized election in history. Most independents and moderates stay home.

Independents love Bernie!!

[Sir Mohamed]

Assuming Hillary implodes for some reason and Bernie is the nominee, he wins.

Senator Bernard Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 299 EV. (49.7%)
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX): 239 EV. (48.3%)

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Sanders narrowly wins with the 272 map in the most bitterly polarized election in history. Most independents and moderates stay home.

Independents love Bernie!!

They do much more then Hillary.

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Sanders by a mile.

[Eraserhead]

Not sure, it would be very close; but in terms of memes produced this race would be at critical levels of dankness.

Yes, which is really all that matters.

THE DREAM ELECTION

[°Leprechaun]

Sanders by a mile.

By at least a mile. Maybe more like ten.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Not sure, it would be very close; but in terms of memes produced this race would be at critical levels of dankness.

Yes, which is really all that matters.

THE DREAM ELECTION

Joe Biden tho, RIP.

(Sanders stands no chance in a GE of course)

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Trump being the nominee would be the only reason why I'd ever vote for the raging banshee or the grumpy old man

[DrScholl]

Trump would win. Not because he's a good candidate, but because he could defeat Sanders with rhetoric.

[DrScholl]

Trump would be able to easily defeat Sanders with rhetoric.

[Oakvale]

TRUMP wins everywhere but Vermont, maybe a few other liberal bastions.

Let's be real, guys. An 84-year-old admitted socialist and career fringe politician would be crushed by any Republican*, and especially a successful, high-energy businessman.



* With the possible exception of Jeb! Bush.

[Ljube]

Realistic map:

I think TRUMP would win Nevada too.

[Oakvale]

I doubt Sanders would win Nevada and New Mexico if you're assuming Hispanics don't vote Republican. He's not all that much less anti-immigrant than TRUMP, and the latter's massive majorities with almost every other section of the electorate and ~30% of the black vote in this scenario would give him the win handily.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

TRUMP wins everywhere but Vermont, maybe a few other liberal bastions.

Let's be real, guys. An 84-year-old admitted socialist and career fringe politician would be crushed by any Republican*, and especially a successful, high-energy businessman.



* With the possible exception of Jeb! Bush.

Nah, I think Sanders would be pretty competitive against Kasich and Carson, wand would wallop sneed.