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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2005, 09:53:19 pm »

Schundler has done consistantly better in Quinnipiac polls than in others so this confirms Forrestor by about 5-7%.

Forrester 36%
Schundler 31%

Told ya! Wink
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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2005, 08:55:24 am »

the nyc news broadcasts didn't seem surprised by the forrester victory, I'll add.  And, frankly, from what I could tell from the coverage, neither did the Schundler supporters.  The word "loser" was frequently and casually used to describe Schundler very often on channels 5 and 9.  Did not hear the word "upset" at all.  And by about 11 o'clock, the schundler HQ was pretty much a big empty room.  No surprises, it seems.  Oddly, the local media don't seem much enamored with Corzine either.
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2005, 01:53:58 pm »

STAR-LEDGER/ EAGLETON-RUTGERS POLL

Jon Corzine - 43%
Doug Forrester - 33%
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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2005, 04:39:14 pm »

STAR-LEDGER/ EAGLETON-RUTGERS POLL

Jon Corzine - 43%
Doug Forrester - 33%


Forrester shouldn't be in the 30s anymore so this isn't that great of news for his campaign. However, Corzine in the low 40s isn't good for the Dems.
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« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2005, 01:16:27 pm »

Quinnipiac Poll

HEAD TO HEAD
Jon Corzine - 47%
Doug Forrester - 37%

JOB APPROVAL
George W. Bush - 40%-55%
Richard Codey - 51%-22%
Jon Corzine - 51%- 32%
Frank Lautenberg - 49%-34%

FAVORABILITY RATINGS
Jon Corzine - 33%-21%
Doug Forrester - 20%-14%

HONEST & TRUSTWORTHY
Jon Corzine - 50%-26%
Doug Forrester - 40%-22%

STRONG LEADER
Jon Corzine - 61%-20%
Doug Forrester - 45%-19%

CARES ABOUT THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU
Jon Corzine - 46%-35%
Doug Forrester - 42%-29%

BETTER JOB REDUCING PROPERTY TAXES
Jon Corzine - 35%
Doug Forrester - 37%

BALLOT TEST: INDEPENDENTS
Jon Corzine - 37%
Doug Forrester - 39%

BALLOT TEST: WOMEN
Jon Corzine - 48%
Doug Forrester - 34%

BALLOT TEST: MEN
Jon Corzine - 46%
Doug Forrester - 40%

BALLOT TEST: SOUTH JERSEY
Jon Corzine - 42%
Doug Forrester - 39%

BALLOT TEST: SHORE COUNTIES
Jon Corzine - 39%
Doug Forrester - 46%

BALLOT TEST: ESSEX & HUDSON
Jon Corzine - 53%
Doug Forrester - 29%

BALLOT TEST: BERGEN, PASSAIC, UNION, MIDDLESEX & MERCER
Jon Corzine - 54%
Doug Forrester - 33%

BALLOT TEST: MORRIS, SOMERSET, HUNTERDON, SUSSEX & WARREN
Jon Corzine - 43%
Doug Forrester - 42%
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« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2005, 06:11:02 pm »
« Edited: July 08, 2005, 06:14:16 pm by Sexy Moose Nipples »

Only a fool would call one university poll a sign of a dead heat.  Schundler has done consistantly better in Quinnipiac polls than in others so this confirms Forrestor by about 5-7%.

I agree and disagree. Quinnipiac is one of the best polling institutes in the area. However, I'm still stratching my head as to how anyone can close that gap in such a short amount of time. I'm still alittle worried though.

How many voters watch the primary debates? 1%? Forrester is going to win tomorrow without much trouble.

I know I sound like a broken record but most people don't even know who is running. And the ones that do.....know absolutely nothing about the candidates. I follow politics more than the average new jersey resident, and while I know basic information about the candidates, and their political viewpoints, I didn't even know about the debate. Our local paper hardly covers local politics. I'm glad Forrester was nominated though. He has the best shot at winning. Are Forrester and Corzine having a debate? If so....when?
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« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2005, 03:35:55 pm »

New Rassmussen Poll:

Corzine 50, Forrester 38, Other 4

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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2005, 03:46:21 pm »

New Rassmussen Poll:

Corzine 50, Forrester 38, Other 4

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Forrester needs to start going after those Independent voters stronger.
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« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2005, 03:50:55 pm »

New Rassmussen Poll:

Corzine 50, Forrester 38, Other 4

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Forrester needs to start going after those Independent voters stronger.

Forrester needs Conservative voters:

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« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2005, 03:52:32 pm »

New Rassmussen Poll:

Corzine 50, Forrester 38, Other 4

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Forrester needs to start going after those Independent voters stronger.

Forrester needs Conservative voters:

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That's a factor but in the end, the conservatives of NJ will without a doubt be supporting Forrester over Corzine. Maybe he'll have to work on them a bit for turnout but the Independent vote is what will really matter the most.
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« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2005, 04:55:35 pm »

Who the hell is the "other" candidate?
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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2005, 04:58:14 pm »
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Forrester needs Conservative voters:

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Ive been saying that all along.  Social conservatives are going to stay home.  They may not be the largest demographic in NJ, but in a close race they could be the deciding factor.
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2005, 05:21:00 pm »

Who the hell is the "other" candidate?

NJ WeedMan.
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2005, 07:44:13 pm »

Quinnipiac Poll

HEAD TO HEAD
Jon Corzine - 47%
Doug Forrester - 37%

BALLOT TEST: MORRIS, SOMERSET, HUNTERDON, SUSSEX & WARREN
Jon Corzine - 43%
Doug Forrester - 42%

Wow! Corzine is tied with Forrester in the most heavily Republican counties in the State. That is surprising and a bad sign for the GOP unless I'm missing something.
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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2005, 07:51:31 pm »

Just wait a while you will get spin.
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« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2005, 12:19:44 am »
« Edited: July 16, 2005, 12:21:59 am by Mayor of Delaware Cashcow »


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Ive been saying that all along.  Social conservatives are going to stay home.  They may not be the largest demographic in NJ, but in a close race they could be the deciding factor.

Or maybe they'll find an entirely new guy to steal votes!

You thought Bob Casey would be brought down by the pro-choice crowd... imagine what the ultra-pro-life nuts could do to poor Doug Forrester!
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« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2005, 10:23:09 am »


Or maybe they'll find an entirely new guy to steal votes!

You thought Bob Casey would be brought down by the pro-choice crowd... imagine what the ultra-pro-life nuts could do to poor Doug Forrester!

Have you decided who you will be voting for?
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« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2005, 11:28:30 am »


Or maybe they'll find an entirely new guy to steal votes!

You thought Bob Casey would be brought down by the pro-choice crowd... imagine what the ultra-pro-life nuts could do to poor Doug Forrester!

Have you decided who you will be voting for?

I will probably vote for Senator Corzine.

Corzine has demonstrated in the Senate that he is willing to protect our social freedoms and follow the precedents set by acting governor Codey. Based on the state of the NJ GOP, which has distanced itself from former governor Whitman, I do not trust Doug Forrester to do the same. I may change my mind. You never know.

In a worst-case scenario, Corzine finally destroys the NJ Democratic Party, and some moderate Republicans take command for the next few years. Not a bad deal.
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« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2005, 06:57:07 pm »


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Ive been saying that all along.  Social conservatives are going to stay home.  They may not be the largest demographic in NJ, but in a close race they could be the deciding factor.

Social conservatives are not going to stay home when they have a chance to beat one of the most liberal Senators in the country.
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« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2005, 05:51:27 pm »


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Ive been saying that all along.  Social conservatives are going to stay home.  They may not be the largest demographic in NJ, but in a close race they could be the deciding factor.

Social conservatives are not going to stay home when they have a chance to beat one of the most liberal Senators in the country.

By that same logic, social liberals are not going to stay home when they have a chance to beat one of the most conservative Senators in the country, Rick Santorum.
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« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2005, 05:56:38 pm »


By that same logic, social liberals are not going to stay home when they have a chance to beat one of the most conservative Senators in the country, Rick Santorum.

I never said they wouldn't go to the polls but they might not go for Casey. I think NJ conservatives are more willing to accept Forrester (who isn't really that close to the center) than PA liberals being willing to vote for Casey.
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« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2005, 06:52:57 pm »


By that same logic, social liberals are not going to stay home when they have a chance to beat one of the most conservative Senators in the country, Rick Santorum.

I never said they wouldn't go to the polls but they might not go for Casey.

What would possibly bring them to believe that some third-party nut could beat Rick Santorum?
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« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2005, 06:57:20 pm »



What would possibly bring them to believe that some third-party nut could beat Rick Santorum?

They don't believe a third party nut would beat him. It would be a very strong protest vote. Here's a situation when they see two social conservatives running and have no real choice. It's not the same as NJ. Forrester is not a RINO. Social conservatives there have a choice. He's not Schundler but he's more acceptable. Social liberals in PA aren't seeing it that way (or atleast aren't now). Do you remember all the outrage over the Dems asking Casey to run?
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« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2005, 07:14:12 pm »

The PA situation is like 2004 except that the third party candidate is a joke rather than a serious candidate.
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« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2005, 09:52:54 pm »



What would possibly bring them to believe that some third-party nut could beat Rick Santorum?

They don't believe a third party nut would beat him. It would be a very strong protest vote. Here's a situation when they see two social conservatives running and have no real choice. It's not the same as NJ. Forrester is not a RINO. Social conservatives there have a choice. He's not Schundler but he's more acceptable. Social liberals in PA aren't seeing it that way (or atleast aren't now). Do you remember all the outrage over the Dems asking Casey to run?

No, I don't really remember the outrage. I remember thousands upon thousands of social liberals cheering at the possibility of a Democratic victory.

How is Casey a social conservative? Is he just pro-life? You're always going to find a bunch of idiots voting over abortion - that's what we call NOW, and they are best left ignored.  The "liberal lobbyist pro-abortion groups" have much, much less influence on elections than you think, especially in a state like Pennsylvania.
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